Pornhub blocks Montana and North Carolina as their age verification laws take effect | The website says the states' ID requirement would put users' privacy at risk

It also works the other way. A lot of people in state are going to have IP addresses that appear out of state.

All in all, using IP to establish a physical address is VERY imperfect. Especially if you’re targeting people over cellular networks or networks in larger commercial properties.

I look forward to watching people try to sue porn sites that are actively trying to block access to a state.

This is going to be a shit show. It’s a law passed by people who don’t understand the underlying tech.

Complain to your isp

I understand you shouldn't have to do this but Its insanely easy to use a vpn nowadays. Download and run , paid and unpaid

So those without an android phone?

The question is why. You can't stop kids from watching it. People get it one way or another. This does nothing than cause mild dips in viewership.

And frankly the kind of stuff on law abiding sites like PH is not doing any noticeable harm anyway. Raising awareness on sexual education if anything.

Most kids begin watching/experimenting around 14. Around 16 is when they should have sex ed and 18 is adulthood anyway. What's the point?

Not comparable but we are back to the "video games cause violence" nonsense.

Sometimes kids just dont need government protection. This is one of those times.

ACLU v Ashcroft and ACLU v Reno are really interesting to read, if you haven't already.

Part of the conclusion of the court at that time was (at least regarding the CDA):

In order to deny minors access to potentially harmful speech, the CDA effectively suppresses a large amount of speech that adults have a constitutional right to receive and to address to one another. That burden on adult speech is unacceptable if less restrictive alternatives would be at least as effective in achieving the legitimate purpose that the statute was enacted to serve

In ACLU vs. Ashcroft, the court ruled that less restrictive measures like Internet filters should be used, rather than the law in question (COPA).

I kind of think an argument exists that a system like what you mentioned with cryptographic keys could be a "less restrictive measures" given today's technology. But I think we should still be careful, and keep in mind that nearly all pornography (with the exception of obscenity -- a very narrowly defined category) is speech that enjoys strong protections under the First Amendment. So any decisions around restricting this free speech, regardless of our good intentions in protecting our children, can have unintended negative consequences around first amendment speech in general.

I assume the goal is not actually to keep kids from watching porn but rather to have a chilling effect on it

Probably a safe assumption. It's difficult to tend towards other conclusions when the state of Utah has declared pornography a public health crisis, for example. Children are often just a means to an end in laws and public conversation. But don't forget that most of these kinds of "protect the children" laws are often rooted in some sort of good intentions, so I can't completely ascribe malice to the actions of these lawmakers. Evil is often wrapped in good intentions.

By the way, part of the Free Speech Coalition's arguments in Utah was around the impossibility of actually implementing age verification as no system actually exists in Utah to enforce that. Utah's law essentially ducks the first amendment by outsourcing enforcement to private action rather than government action. Scary stuff.

I hate to break it to you, but teenagers have been circumnavigating around any law the government throws at them since the beginning of time.

This law is particularly ridiculous and poorly thought out. It is easily bypassed and only has potential downsides. It is ripe for abuse and it's insane anyone supports this level of privacy intrusion.

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The absolute dumbest of takes.

All anyone has to do is say, "...it's for the children," and you just line up, ready to sign away your rights and privacy.

No they'd rather people not have to upload copies of their photo ID to porn sites or participate in a system where such preferences will be easily stored in a government database. It opens the door for privacy violation, extortion, public humiliation, etc for engaging in legal but socially stigmatized behavior in the privacy of their own homes.

No. They would rather effective age verification that doesn't negatively impact the privacy and liberties of their users. They want a solution, not just a ham fisted excuse to start building the foundations of a social credit system

It is not Pornhubs fault that the kids access the net unsupervised.

were you never a teenager?

What is with this fucking dumbass, disingenuous campaign on Lemmy? And I recently saw some dumb cunt arguing that blue states are taking gun rights away from black people, too.

You fucktards really expect people to think that you care about kids or black people?

I assure you, we are not the idiots.

You do not start to watch porn at 18 , every adolescent watch porn stop with this "protect kid " bullshit

I'm just not an authoritarian. I don't like the government spying on us as it is. Why would I volunteer to give up even more privacy? Consider installing cameras in your home and give the government access to them if you want. Totes just to make sure the kids aren't doing anything wrong. I'll skip.

Party of small government!

You know they are not doing it for the kids, they want to know if you are gay. By associating people ID to content type they know what YOU watch.

Did your parents not have IDs when you were a kid? O.o

What kind of a parent are you if you're not blocking access to these kinds of sites on the devices of your kids?

Get off of Lemmy, moron. You're bringing down the average IQ of the entire platform.

lol