YSK in the U.S., you can buy produce directly from black farmers and they will ship it to you. It can cost less than your supermarket and will piss off people in power.
YSK in the U.S., you can buy produce directly from black farmers and they will ship it to you. It can cost less than your supermarket and will piss off people in power.
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Why do they have to be black? America is bizarrely obsessed with race, I've never seen anything like it both in person and on the internet.
Because they still get shut out of opportunities based solely on their skin color, names, and application photos. So they work together to create their own opportunities and are rightfully proud of that. America can stop worrying about race when we finally end racism.
That's the mentality that perpetuates it though
Do you ever stop to consider that it may be exactly because of your obsession with the skin tone of people, that you have so much racism?
Try imagining being just as obsessed about eye colors. It seems ridiculous right?
It does seem ridiculous to me but I'm not racist and we tried that. In the 1980's and 1990's they made talking about race a social taboo. You just didn't talk about it. The only effect was to freeze racism in place while white people congratulated themselves on solving it because they didn't hear about it anymore.
So it turns out that in order to fight racism you have to talk about it and give financial support to the class that's been oppressed.
You get out of here you SOCIALIST. How dare you suggest we even the playing field for the people who we took opportunities away from for hundreds of years!
I know right? What's next, paying the kids we feed to the machines?
Do you have a recent example of someone who was denied an opportunity, that is afforded to everyone, based solely on their race?
2024 hiring link, PDF Warning, EDU domain
The studies go on and on. The sheet brigade may not march in your town anymore but they're still in positions of power pushing down on minorities.
Good resources and sharing.
I appreciate what you've done in the comments of this post.
I didn't doubt it's still happening somewhere; just curious how wide spread it is. I read the third link. It was interesting. I wasn't aware the Justice department spent almost 2.5 years going after lenders.
And the work still isn't done. This is happening all over the country.
It's because America is obsessed with race, and has systematically attempted to demolish black economic power from the foundation of the society, that people may choose to shop this way.
Fighting racism with more racism.
This is why im gonna teach my future kids to bully white kids like I was, they need to understand /s I got them sent to juvie that was good enough for me lol, fight racism with the law, give them a criminal record and get them thrown out of school, way more satisfying
For context so mfs dont defend my old bullies they were 5 years older, would surround me and call me a terrorist (I was in 3rd grade) They eventually escalated and spat on my grandpa when he noticed them fking with me, he chased them and fell, and cops got called. They did this shit for like a month before anyone noticed, I was scared theyd actually beat me up if I told my parents. It was 5 white teens and one indian me, Idk any white kids that had to deal with that shit, I was being called a terrorist before I knew what it was.
That sucks man. But there are definitely white kids who got bullied badly, they just don't have the racism angle. I'm glad someone noticed it was happening to you. I went 5 years actively being bullied by the same kids and the schools decided it was my fault so they didn't even try to punish the bullies. They actually punished me for getting hit, even when I did nothing but curl into a ball, that was inciting them and grounds for detention. The school told my parents I was on drugs and made them get me tested. When I did do well academically I was accused of cheating and given artificially lower grades. The teachers made no secret of blaming me for being abused, I was routinely lectured for whatever other students did to me.
What was my crime? I did two years in a special education school because my hearing was impaired when I was younger. That was enough to brand me as chum in the shark tank for the next 5 years and an outcast for the next decade. And the only reason they stopped hitting me was because I grew enough muscles to make them hurt too.
like no ones gonna tell yall to go back to your own country typically, like I was born 2 miles away bitch this is my country
Yeah, im not saying no one else got bullied, mine was based around my race tho I had no choice in it, just post 9/11 america lol (you didnt have a choice either obv, but the argument is typically you cant be racist to white ppl or they dont face it the same way we do, ppl are still shitty for plenty of other reasons)
Yeah, racism sucks. I think I just felt like you were saying we couldn't have it bad but that's not rational and reading your comment back it's not what you were saying. There's very few places white people are going to face racism in America and a lot of white people don't realize that.
Yeah sure, but you're just perpetuating. It should just be 'buy from local American farmers', race shouldn't be a thing.
Intentionally buying from black owned businesses does not perpetuate a racist white man that is in a position of power that allows him to deny black people economic power.
No, but your mentality perpetuates segregation
I would prefer knowing my money is going to people who have been systematically disadvantaged for this nation's entire history.
I suppose your post could imply other minorities could be included but the way I read your comment gives off big WLM energy.
Edit: spelling
Yeah and I understand your thought process. However the entire point is to skip large corporations and buy food from local farmers. Again, why do they have to be black? Coming from a country not obsessed with race, the very mention of race prior to a product or service, seems strange and segregating in itself.
Race should just be taken out of it, support your farmers. That is my point.
And fuck off with the white lives matter shit. I would say the same shit to white farmers, Latino farmers etc. Race+service = bizarre.
NorthEast Florida has: https://www.melanatedgrowersinc.com/
Nobody alive has lived through this nation’s entire history
Dude this is discrimination also. It's like why do I have to pay for things that my gparents have done? This brings me to other questions such as how long do you will be "systematically disadvantaged"? I have seen those cases with my eyes: Afro has their college fees paid and they got paid for studying. he/her reproved. Do state retired the help? NO. They just had a talk with he/her and keep with aid. Meanwhile my mixed friend had to put gmother home as warrant to get a loan in order to pay the stupid college. I got enough of it.
Because they were kept poor, imprisoned, and abused until at least 1965. So the kids born in the 1950's had the first real chance to go to college. In reality though red lining continued right up into the 1980's, making sure black people couldn't get access to services and jobs because they were physically out of reach from the housing areas they had been pushed into decades prior. And job hiring racism still occurs to this day. It was in the 2010's they did a study with applications that differed only by having an "ethnic" name or a "white" name.
So until black people can access the same opportunities as white people there needs to be support. Everyone wants to assume this shit ended in 1865 or 1965 but not only did it not, it's still going on.
So why do I have to pay what my ggparents have done to black people? I don't think it works like this. My friend is a good example of discrimination also.
The victim complex of so many white people is truly fucking wild.
Are you not already buying food anyway? No one is forcing you to do anything. But people are going to call you out for being so uninterested having an equitable society.
What are you paying for? Is someone forcing you to pay thousands of dollars a year to fund a scholarship or something?
And the reason they get help is because your parent's actions (not your grand parents) prevented black people your age from getting the same opportunities you got.
Guy said he wanted to help people so have been and still are supposed and you took that as discrimination? I guess if we don't help everyone all at once we shouldn't help anyone?
No, my point is what criteria are using to help? I feel it should be used not because you are black. For me should be done in meritocratic order: First the extremely poor yet good students, second the poor yet good students, third excellent students ON ANY ECONOMIC SITUATION. Not because black or LGBT or because you are women...
And this would be a great approach if systemic racism didn't exist.
Everyone isn't treated the same, so helping them the same leaves people behind.
Sure, it can seem on the surface like wanting to support people of a particular race is in itself a kind of racism, or at least a situation that emphasizes unfair distinctions.
Unfortunately, race does still matter in America, even if we personally disagree with it or want to ignore it. The health and economic research data make it very clear that people of color in America, especially black people, experience harder lives in almost every category. This is due to both recurring experiences of present-day prejudice and discrimination, as well the inter-generational impacts of wealth inequality and psychological trauma.
You might already know about this, but redlining is one example of the way that patterns of discrimination can creates a systemic effect, which, in turn, can impact the physical and financial effects on a family across time. These kinds of systemic effects can then make it harder for current generations of these families to recover and live safe lives today though, we personally might celebrate that the policy doesn't exist anymore, and even though we personally might say that we don't support people acting like that anymore.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining
No one really has to do anything, but some people might choose to support groups of people or organizations who they think might have experienced similar kinds of hardships in their families, and might be glad to have a way to try to do something different with their money than give it to another multinational corporation every time.
Right but as far as I understand it the supermarkets and wholesalers screw all farmers over equally race isn't a consideration.
Yeah I've heard these arguments. I still hold my opinion. America needs to move away from the race obsession.
Completely fair - do you have a counterargument? I'd be interested in hearing the other side.
Constantly talking about race makes race a topical issue.
If racism still exists race still needs to be talked about....
Right. Its going so well for you guys so far, remind me again which breed of nazis are in power, and whicj programs they are focusing on destroying?
So you are going to act like everyone in America is the exact same. With the same views? Did you miss the election where roughly half of the country didn't want this or are you just lashing out because your stance was questioned.
Roughly half? How many didnt take part? Also, gicen its a shithole country, the election results do not relate to how many people wanted whatever. Lol democracy.
As in
- Not talking about race will solve the lingering systemic race issues, or
- There are no lingering systemic race issues, so we should stop talking about it?
Not OP, but keep seeing the world as if it is “us vs them” or “black vs white” or “right vs left” or “rich vs poor” will not help find common ground and compromises. There is no compromise for racism, but people putting more attention on it will only promote looking at the situation in a way where the difference matters.
Well b is definitely false, so I'm hoping they meant a
Oh no the US is a shitshow of systemic racism, like super ridiculous on every level. There is such a wild undercurrent, surface levek and then an even weirder like super liminal racism where it just has to be mentioned.
Watch like any late night and they will make a self depricating white person joke, middle aged white guy thing. Just stfu about all of it, address the systemic issues with actual actions and then just you know...live as neighbours as americans.
So the US is a shitshow of systemic racism but you want everyone to stop talking about race? Sounds like a way to never fix the problem.
Yeah I want everyone to stop thinking that making jokes about white people's potato salad being lacking in flavour and thinking it is 1. Funny and 2. Making any fucking difference other than highlighting differences. Black people can swim and have small dicks, white people can dance. The pop culture racism is boring and part of the problem.
Why are you talking about white people jokes when I'm talking about systemic oppression.
We were talking about systemic racism. A thing that ruins lives, not bad jokes.
You get how you can't solve racism without discussing race right?
Well for one, america has never shut up about racism and to go with that...things have not got better. It is literally legal to have slaves as long as you incarcerate them first.
Its like these people protesting at the moment, everyone is posting a catching sign. Why the fuck is everyone not just stopping work, just not participating? Because you cant monetise or grow your image that way. Americans want to be seen to care about race, to protest to blah blah blah. But when push comes to shove, ye vote for greed or complacency.
I still love how everyone acts like America is the only racist country on the planet.
TIL posting/having conversations about a characteristic of one country implies that you believe that no other countries have that same characteristic.
While I'm sure the fact that the dominance of US news and culture on the internet is probably really frustrating for non-Americans, it's pretty natural for Americans (or anyone, really) to talk about our own country and experiences... especially while having to grapple with how things have been escalating here. You're certainly free to share your own experiences.
Can't say I've ever seen people do that
We wanted to pretend it was ending ourselves until 2016.
This is like, 50% the value of pissing off people in power.
the democrats have built their entire brand around performative racial justice where everything they do is designed to appeal to different groups. Its super toxic and while I am vehemently anti-racist this tokenization of policy is counter productive and the reason why a lot of people reject the democrats as "racist"
Bro, the US wins world champions in racism. There are ethno-nationalists in India that think Americans take it too far.
It's also important to note that POC, black people or melenated people (take your pick - i.e Pakistani and some Indians are PoC) are not exempt from being racist.
In fact, if you suffer racism there's a chance you'll then turn racist, because it triggers pack instinct, paranoia, group think - etc. Humans gonna hume. "You're claiming reverse racism" - bitch, did I stutter? Racism is racism is racism is racism.
That being said, zoning laws are still CRT based and some neighbourhoods in the US only get the most basic super markets - if even that.
"All I see is church, church, liquor store" - Black Milk.
If black people need access to raw produce in areas they can't get access to it, then I think it's completely acceptable. Sad, but acceptable.
I could also see a bunch of Karens buying out the stock so that they can brag that they eat "black produce", effective depriving black children of proper produce.
To err is human, and also be awful is human, and also racism... is human, and also (say it with me now):
Humana gonna hume. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think this is downvoted because people don't realize the face of modern racism.
Naw, it's probably because they define racism as actual systemic oppression and not the psychology behind racism - which is dumb, because the latter leads to the former.
But it's also a question of yankie ire. - i.e the Ugly American. No lie, you'll meet Africans who have the darkest skin who say they aren't black or identify as black, simply because they don't want it to override, generalize and trivialise their own people group's unique identity and culture.
Then some yankie fuck will lose their ever loving mind and call it racist because they won't placate to either Pan-Africanism, black nationalism or black erhno-nationalism, as if that's somehow positive, even though white nationalism isn't, nor is Pan-Europeanism... the last point I added, because FUCK off if you can me Mediterranean.
Like boy, are you calling me french? Bitch, I'm Nordic. Me and Habibi will slap the shit out of you with a muttom kebab for making that comparison. Like we still have honor and pride in adoption and there are plenty of melanated Nordics today because of it, while yankies have adoption auctions?
Like my brother in Christ, what even is this vile act? Your selling kids like vintage furniture? Are you sick in the head? "Oh, but that's a white people thing"... again, I'm not fucking wHite then, am I? Because that shit would be fucking dishonourable to my people. Sometimes there are adoption scandals and it hits national news... but sanctioned, legal adoption auctions? Wtf.
People also immigrate, which is fine, since you want people to have the freedom to migrate. Can't have it one way and not the other. And besides, I love my countrymen, of all shapes, sizes and hue of skin, and I damn sure don't identify as wHite, because that's how they got the circus over the pond going completely Texas.
Somehow it seems Americans just wanna make everything pink slime. You need to be put into the people group grinder so that you conform to your identity blob. You shall be pigeon holed, you shall be boxed in, you shall be stereotyped.
Honestly though, I'm racist against yankies - or I'm turning racist against yankies. I'm getting so sick and tired of their bullshit, brainrot, CRT and broad generalizations.
Build the wall - keep those fuckers in.
((And they say irony is dead - you can down vote this dick))
Americans always think they have the market cornered on everything. As if slavery and racism didn't exist until the 18th century.
Right? Gah!
Because uh... Orange man hates black people or something...