I got permabanned from /r/canada on Reddit for promiting Lemmy and the fediverse.
I posted this yesterday:
And apparently this warrants a instant permaban.
They don't even tell you what rule it breaks. Which one do you think it might break?
In any case, every time I visit Reddit and look at my local subs (Montréal, Québec or Canada) I look at the comments and they're absolutely vile. The community has become so fucking toxic it's unbearable. And I also realized how my mental health actually improved since I left that community.
They can keep the permaban. I don't give a shit anymore. I'm so over that god forsaken place.
Peace out.
Quick update:
I contancted the mods and apparently I was permabanned for spamming and they immediately muted me so I wouldn't be able to message the mods any further. I can understand that it can be considered spamming, but I feel they're being extremely harsh over this. They really have no chill.
r/Canada is literally run with conservative propaganda efforts in mind. It's not surprised that any attempt to pull people out of the echo chamber is met with an instant ban.
In any case, every time I visit Reddit and look at my local subs (Montréal, Québec or Canada) I look at the comments and they're absolutely vile. The community has become so fucking toxic it's unbearable. And I also realized how my mental health actually improved since I left that community.
I used to dread seeing that I had messages on Reddit. My first thought would be "Oh, what did I do now?". On Lemmy, I'm much more interested in seeing any responses to my comments.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but I don't think Lemmy has any hope of survival as a truly global platform.
I've been through this a few times: Usenet, Digg, Reddit. They started off small and stayed mostly civil even though there is a wide range of opinion. Then they start growing rapidly and people see an opportunity to "get their message out", whether that's spam, personal aggrandizement, a political message, or whatever: exploitation vs participation. After a while it becomes just too much for some people, so they find somewhere else to congregate.
As they leave, that platform becomes ever more useless, leading to more migration. The platform eventually becomes useless even to the exploiters, so they figure out where everyone went and follow them.
And the cycle continues. I think that the cycle can only accelerate as "exploiters" become more proactive in following "participants" to new homes. That implies an eventual breakdown of the whole concept of global discussion communities. Are we seeing that already on Lemmy? I don't know, but I'm registered on 4 different instances, each with their own primary focus, and there has already been a bit of federation/defederation drama on every one them.
I think the only way to break the cycle is to figure out a way to eliminate exploitation. That may well be impossible, at least on any platform that has global reach, centralized or not. As far as I can tell, those who would exploit a system have always found ways to do so.
3 or 4 times people reported me as a risk to myself on reddit, and this suicide prevention hotline bot would then send messages with long lists of number to call.
Turning this tool into a weapon against me, simply because I am pro-vaccine was just pathetic and gross.
Replace Lemmy in your text with Facebook, Discord, Telegram or any other forum like group or simply imagine someone posting here to go to Reddit instead, seems a bit spammy doesn't it?
Yeah and I feel like the users there don't care at all about all the privacy issues and how Reddit aggressively exploits it's users now. And they're using AI with bots to basically generate content using old posts or comments and repost.
It's like any other social network like Twitter and Facebook. I tell people that they need to leave for their own good, but nobody gives a damn.
It's driving me crazy because I see the problems. I see how it's affecting people. I can explain it to them and they'll understand. They still refuse to leave. It's like telling them they're drinking poison and asking them to stop but they're drinking it because everyone is going it anyway.
My guess would be that it really had nothing to do with Canada. It had to do with you complaining about their subreddit and you telling people to leave it. I would have removed it as well. Dunno if I would have banned you. I would have had to seen it a number of times before I banned you I think.
As a mod, I don't care if they say something is better somewhere else as long as it is about the same theme. I mean if I run Old and Antique Cars and someone says hey lets meet up at this other place as well, that is great. It is more Old and Antique Car discussion. I don't give a shit about the platform, Reddit certainly is not paying, and if anything is actively trying to fuck over moderation. If they said Old and Antique cars suck we should all move to New and Fast Cars, I might remove it.
So I am confused why you would remove it? Does it really matter?
Well duh if you’re wanting to ditch your subreddit too of course you’d big it up, lock it down, and send everybody to lemmy. You answered your own question.
I wouldn't be surprised that they removed it based on not being a link to certain news sources that they seem to require. Permaban, though? That's not rules related.
Yeah. I thought it was pretty on topic. Presenting another social network where people can share without fear of getting trolled or receiving toxic and agressive replies to the most mundane posts/comments.
...on a thread. When I went to appeal, the admin couldn't explain how anyone arrived at the decision, or even show the context around the comment, but upheld the decision nonetheless.
I've seen a few posts today from people complaining about being banned for promoting Lemmy.
Imo, the way to promote Lemmy isn't by spamming "JOIN LEMMY", but rather by meaningfully engaging in the community, and looking for ways to naturally bring up the positive points of this platform.
Like, if I saw a bunch of straight up ads for Lemmy (like this), I wouldn't be here now. I joined because people were having actual, real conversations and recommending Lemmy as an alternative to Reddit. That's what we need to "advertise": Good, engaging conversations.
Imagine looking at this as someone who has never heard of lemmy. You are pulling people off the forum to a place that seems to have a poorly obfuscated "fedish" in the title in order to "talk". IDK I can see how people might assume you are a spam bot.
Yup, I've seen that stuff. It'd make me feel better if they were getting paid. It's a nicer thought to me than them doing this crap because they're truly that way.
You could be. I'm not saying it's justified, but it is a rule on the site as a whole that users are not permitted to advertise other platforms. It's their way of fucking their users just a little more, because they can try and justify anything they want because it's in the TOS you agree to when signing up.
Anything canada related has been hijacked by "activists" and they arbitrarily ban anything their delicate sensibilities can't handle, which is basically anything. I got banned for referencing historical data in relation to the current direction of geopolitics and the likelihood of another world war soon and our (canada's) heavy involvement in the arms industry to tyrants around the world.
Specifically I was referencing the "War is a Racket" book by Major General Smedley Butler and apparently the facts that the military industrial complex runs the show got them severely butt hurt. Especially since Canada isn't a country as much as a puppet for corporate interests these days.
I am not from Canada, but have noticed many subreddits are becoming more more toxic. Even subs that used to be somewhat reasonably moderated are nearly intolerable from the amount of trolls.
Absolutely. I think it's because Reddit is gaining a lot of popularity, probably in huge part due to recent movies the site like Dumb Money for exemple.
Like any other social media, the more people you have, the more toxic people is seems to attract.
I don't think they're worried. Actually the fact that they permabanned me shows that they have plenty of users to a point they can sacrifice whoever they want.