Solar power and storage prices have dropped almost 90%

If you are willing to DIY you can cut that number dramatically. Out of curiosity what was the size of the array in that quote and did it include battery storage if so how much chances are that you can cut it by anywhere from 50% to 75% if you're willing to Simply purchase directly and install yourself. The amount that installers charge is absolutely asinine usually 50% or more of that quote is just the installation which is in the same because it's not difficult at all. People like to act scared like oh that'll be difficult or hard or dangerous, it's extremely simple you're dealing with DC which is very straightforward everything is very clearly labeled on that equipment and it's quite simple to do yourself

Is that paying cash for the solar system or financing? Financing can devastate the ROI with interest rates today. I'm looking at as long as 12 year ROI with possibly as short as 7 year ROI if I consider the USA's federal tax incentives. My slightly southern latitude (a border state with Canada) also likely contributes to slightly higher generation results using the same equipment.

How are the government incentives in Canada? I'm super envious of your great hydro power, my neighbor.

Well it's the company/ies not the product

Was that recently or last year? Prices were out of control last year. Here prices have dropped almost 30% just since May.

How much of that is installation costs?

Wow. 3000 square foot home here so we had a sizable system. It was $15k USD.

how much solar generation capacity and battery storage are u seeking ? where i live, a 2kw solar installation without battery (grid-tied system ?) costs about 3k$. system pays itself in 4 years and rest of existence is powered by free energy. want batteries ? a 1kwh costs about 300$. where i live 4kwh/day is more than enough, sometimes 10kwh/day in extreme heat/cold. but i guess american needs could differ (30kwh/day maybe?). to recharge 30kwh batteries, u would need extra solar capacity (maybe 7kwc ?), and that would run at 9k$, add 30kwh batteries ? another 9k$.. idk what the 50k CAD are for

In america the installation costs as much as or more than the panels. Until the install costs come down no one is going to do it.

Prices for the batteries and panels themselves have dropped. Just not the cost to install them.

Where I live, power companies successfully lobbied to charge a minimum fee to people using a grid-tied system (as opposed to off-grid). So now a bill that might have been lowered to $9.00 will cost the minimum fee of $30.00 (actual example). You might say, that $30.00 is still a very low power bill but how long will it take before that starts going up? They are also lobbying to buy power from homeowners for less than they charge homeowners. This was a huge turn-off for me considering the high cost of installation. When I asked the solar installer about off-grid installations, he said they weren't allowed to offer those. Not sure why but got the impression it was a government thing and not a company thing. Not sure.

They are not rare. It is the fastest growing energy production mode and is growing faster every year.

Residential installations lag behind the commercial due to installation costs, but they are blowing up as well. I can walk around my neighborhood and see a couple dozen homes with it.

It's also highly regional. The further south in the northern hemisphere the more common.

Here in Canada prices have stayed stubbornly high. It's the Canadian way.

I have panels that I bought for under $0.50/watt that they were clearing out at the local wholesaler years ago. Haven't been able to find anything even near that price range since, and I'm an electrician with access to wholesale pricing.

I have found some decent prices recently but they're all on full pallet lots. So you need to be a business dedicated to solar installs to get a fair price, and those businesses obviously don't pass the savings on as that's not the Canadian way.

Batteries are an even worse situation! If you live here and want storage, I hope you like lead-acid.

UK its partly roof size/shape limiting the amount of panels you can get in the optimum location, partly the weather, and partly install costs.

If its going to take me 8 years at least to pay back vs. not having it I am not going to bother. Some people got lucky with lifetime buy back rates for the panels to the grid so they made bank of theirs with 50p a kwh ( and electric was around 24p a kwh to buy from the grid) but those rates got cut to like 4p a kwh, when even a cheap EV tarrif is like 9p a kwh

There are some finance deals available from the likes of Eon but its hardly high end gear, which I think is needed to make the most of the UK roofs and UK sun. Time you start paying interest on it, it becomes an even worse deal.

I would save more money by just having a battery installed and charging it on my EV tarrif overnight.

Are you using solar?

Damn. Ontario Canada is 15.1-24 cents per kWh.

That's just absurd, why is it so expensive for you? You could install it yourself for the most part, it's not super complicated, just physically difficult. And then pay an electrician $500 to connect the inverter to your main panel.

Think of all the profits you're delivering to shareholders!

Batteries definitely do not cost the same.

probably when using carbon cathodes instead of cobalt, the energy density drops from 300wh/kg to just 150wh/kg, so u would need extra anode/electrolyte mass to store the same amount of energy.i bet that those prices hikes are a result of diversion from rare earth metal mining..but just a guess

We definitely need to build more nuclear.

Solar and nuclear address completely different goals.

We need nuclear because it can cover 20% for 50 years, then we are out of suitable Uranium (allegedly).

That includes an expected undiscovered amount of twice of what has already been discovered.

Clearly nuclear can't solve the climate change problem alone.