There is no meaning, and we must learn to be okay with that.
Fair enough, but finding meaning in life is not the same as finding purpose, no?
You're right. I think you define your own purpose, but there is no predefined purpose
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Or cheese. I suppose either is good.
Let's stick with cheese then 😅
The universe is a cruel, uncaring void. The key to being happy isn't a search for meaning. It's to just keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense, and eventually, you'll be dead.
Sometimes reality can be scary. This is the only reason I can think of about the downvotes they gave you
Or because it was a low effort TV reference, in which case fair enough.
Doggy doggy what now?
You speak the true true. Keep your brain busy with nonsense because it's all nonsense really.
Leave it better than you found it!
The boy scouting rule 💪
Enjoy yourself. That's all. Also: Do the weirdest thing that feels right (article).
I really, really enjoyed that article. Thank you for sharing it.
That's a good advice. Thanks.
There is no purpose..
There is Huzza porpoise, Algerine porpoise, even Mealy-mouthed porpoise. Plenty of cetology to be had.
Yep, the purpose of life is to just live and there's no reason for that besides the fact that it just happened because laws of universe somehow managed to create autonomous complex mass of particles called living beings.
Edit: but because of how human psychology works we have an ability to give a "meaning" of life by ourselves and stick with it.
There is no point exact in life, some people enjoy killing other some people helping but as is there is no purpose..
This is such a loaded question.
Many philosophers tried to answer it, some reaching an optimistic vision, while others concluding it was all doom and gloom (nihilists etc.). There are so many answers, because there are so many variables. To touch the point of the iceberg it depends for example if you believe in the existence of a prime cause (aka God and thus some kind of spiritual dimension) or not; and if yes, how you imagine its attitude (is it sentient? If yes, is it neutral, good or evil? How much does it interfere in the life of the universe? And so on and on...). That shapes how you start to analyze the purpose of human life and existence as a whole. So let's stick on the dilemma of being atheist or theist (avoiding the gray areas like being agnostic, because I'm trying to keep it super simple):
If you say no, there is no God, I believe in the chaotic order that is evolution: you may think for example that the purpose of life is hedonism, the pursuit of pleasure, because you live only once, in the now. And then you enter the rabbit hole of "what kind of hedonism?".
If you say yes and God is caring, the purpose of life is usually the betterment of your soul, to trascend the material dimension. There is an internal evolution here at play. And here the question then is how? You will have to pick which interpretation of the spiritual world convinces you more, a traditional religion or an esoteric philosophy (theosophy etc.).
If your God is neutral, then you probably have full agency, you choose what is you life purpose. You are free to make you own meaning, to play in this playground. The choices here become infinite like the stars.
If your God is evil, like the Gnostic Demiurge, your goal will be to rebel against the current system of oppression, escaping the prison it built to keep you in, for example reaching the true God or becoming your own God.
And, I stress it once more, this is only one of many variables.
In the end nobody knows. This is a personal quest with answers based on your personal intimate experience on what is life, what you currently value, what do you think is it worth living for and the type of relationship you have (or have not) built with its incorporeal, abstract, intuitive, invisible side. Fools are the ones that claim their answer is the only right one, because humanity in its current state does not possess the tools to prove or confute anything on this subject with undeniable evidence. If not fools, then they are manipulative bastards, that want to take advantage of your confusion and lack of direction to persuade you into pursuing a goal that does not benefit you, but them.
Whatever you make it out to be.
There is no universal purpose. Even the old "survival of your species" dogma is reaching the end of its usefulness, seeing how we've perverted our planet.
I agree that there is no universal purpose, but we can still define our own that aligns with our values. Living purposefully can lead to a sense of accomplishment and contentment, don't you think?
Like everything else, you are part of something and made of other things. But for some reason, we seem to be aware enough of what is above and below, what is past and what seems to be coming. Why that should lead to suffering is a matter of managing expectations.
The purpose of life is whatever you make it. Some people feel their purpose is to make as much money as they can, others to create art that will last for all time.
There is no one purpose to life. There's no cosmic point to it all, so we all just find out purpose.
For me, my purpose is to find happiness. I suffer from depression so that's my one goal. I find making people laugh makes me happy, so now I do a podcast where I make people laugh most of the time.
Do you mind sharing your podcast? I'm doing a lot better nowadays after beginning therapy but some days it's hard.
Nature centric: To shit and eventually die on the ground so to maintain the cycle of nutrients.
Species centric: To guarantee the survival of the human species by taking care or our young.
Personal centric: To grab the gift of life with 2 hands, to do what makes you happy and die with a feeling of satisfaction.
Disclaimer: Just some of my personal ideas.
To create more life?
Reflect on your past. Cherish your present. Forge your future. This is what I think life's true purpose is.
save earth
To save earth from what? Climate change?
But then what was the purpose before climate change was a thing?
We need to save it until the sun expands and eventually swallows it up.
Climate change has always been a thing. The planet has been going thru hot/cold cycles for millions of years.
There is no purpose for any life on earth. The planet survived just fine before life started, it will survive just fine when life is gone. (or until Sol goes super-nova, or whatever it's called when it expands and engulfs all the planets).
There is no purpose. Just do all the things you enjoy while you can, our time in this life is very very short in the big scheme of things.
... but not at the expense of others, you should add IMO.
That is an unanswerable question that humans have been having a go at since forever.
I wouldn't say it's unanswerable. Don't you think everyone can find an answer for themself?
I'm asking people to share theirs, since it might help me on my path to define and find my own purpose.
Sure, unanswerable in general without covering whole swathes of philosophy and religion. I guess I view my own purpose to be to do things I enjoy and to help others.
Maybe to find and give love, promoting harmony and compassion amongst all beings?
I don't know.
Increasing entropy of the universe
(Or if optimistic, reducing local entropy)
To live.
To enjoy it.
As I recently found out my family has Huntington's disease and several of us, possibly myself, will die young and horribly...
I find myself ruminating on this a lot and have not come to any solid conclusions. I do frequently think about making sure the people in my life know they are loved and appreciating the beauty of a moment while you can. Maybe it has something to do with that?
Whatever you make it / want it to be. Why try to find purpose beyond living how you want to live? We're only around for about 80 years, why waste it trying to find meaning from someone else.
Fair enough, but it's not about taking someone else's meaning, but defining our own that aligns with our values. Discussing this question with others might give one new perspective on the path to finding purpose.
One could also argue we only have 80 years and finding purpose can serve as the foundation for personal growth. Fulfilling a purpose can lead to happiness and satisfaction in life. So why waist these short 80 years miserable and unhappy?
I didn't say anything about being miserable and unhappy though? Just that you should be free to do what you want and there is no "true purpose to life", just the purpose you give it.
Depends on who you ask. Plato, Nietzsche, Camus would have a brawl just discussing how to define the meaning of purpose.
Personally, I like absurdism. There is no intrinsic meaning. You're not an eventuality, just a coincidence. You're dealt a hand and expected to get something out of it, which is kinda fucked. But hey fuck it, there's cool stuff around too, plenty to find your own meaning.
I believe that the true purpose of life is to partake in the divine nature through communion in the body of Christ.
Cliché, yeah, but I honestly believe that God, by very definition, is the ultimate Good, and the origin and purpose of life.
It's not to be fruitful and multiply cause if you think that's the case then there're some truly horrible people who are succeeding doing some terrible and illegal stuff.
