Democrat Al Green removed from House after interrupting, heckling Trump
Democrat Al Green removed from House after interrupting, heckling Trump
He said speaking up during the address was the best way “get across to a person who uses his incivility, who uses his incivility against our civility.”
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Why didn't every Democrat step forward and PHYSICALLY bar him from being removed. They just sat there and let him be ejected. STAND THE FUCK UP
I thought the same thing. Then I thought about how powerful of a visual it would have been for each one of them, in turn, to cause a disruption and be escorted out. Let the cameras pan over a half filled chamber after 2 hours of meticulous protesting. That image would be in history books 100 years from now, assuming we all survive the next 4.
Trump is an old fart. He's not going to stand up there for 6 hours speaking. If, one-by-one, every Democrat made a scene and got walked out they would've been there until midnight and Trump having gotten through almost none of his speech.
they all dont want to be there, they just want to ride on the grift the gop started, and benfitting from the same donors.
But that would have put their corporate donations in jeopardy!
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.
- Benito Mussolini
thats exactly that, with Klabauchers just staring at her phone.
Won’t someone think of the corporate donors!
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SHAREHOLDERS!?!?
WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE POOR SHAREHOLDERS!
Sir, this is
a retirement homecongress. They might break a hip.Because they’re weaker than wet tissue paper.
True, unless it comes to fighting progressives in their own party. Then they suddenly remember how to fight.
Not saying I disagree with your premise.
However, there are some strange brew rules that come into play depending on the #of reps in attendance in the house. You dwindle the dem #s enough and you end up allowing the reps the ability to run amok with the kinds of legislation they’re salivating to pass.
I’m sure this was at top of mind for some of the folks in attendance.
Congressional rules are meaningless. They are not the constitution. If the Democrats are going to just sit idle because of "congressional rules" then they might as well start using the constitution as toilet paper
You dwindle the dem #s enough and you end up allowing the reps the ability to run amok with the kinds of legislation they’re salivating to pass.
That's why there's also quorum rules. There has to be a minimum of X% of the congresspeople present for anything to count and I'm 99.9% certain that all of the Dems leaving would bring the number present under that even if every single Republican was present.
Quorum is largely meaningless in Congress, both houses assume they have quorum at all times. This allows for the pro forma sessions.
First you have to call a meeting to order, you can't do that without quorum
I kept waiting for it! For a moment, I had a swell of hope that they were going to force the Sargeant at Arms to remove them one by one, or else block Al from being removed, something, anything with a little fucking Chutzpah, but nope. They all just sat down, shut up, and waved their stupid little signs. Good job guys, I can't wait to see your next fundraising text.
It reminded me, very randomly, of quote from a book about urban design and how architectural ideas are introduced and accepted by the public… or not.
From this the "principle of the second man" can be formulated: it is the second man who determines whether the creation of the first man will be carried forward or destroyed...
It was a golden chance and a room full of cowards let it slip.
The book is Design of Cities by Edmund Bacon for anyone interested.
Democrats are spineless cowards and/or complicit.
people who criticize dems from their sofa are the secret spinless trump supporters
How's that party whip taste? Sounds like you'd do well in an authoritarian one-party state as long as the party pretends to be in partial agreement with you.
I hear Shanghai is lovely this time of year..
how do the meds taste? meatloaf on wednesdays. that'll be nice
What on earth are you blathering about?
Is there a better representation of the american people who couldn't be bothered voting in the first place??
Even when they do something they'll get criticized.
Every. Single. Time.
Nothing will ever be enough.
Are you blind? Or just intentionally dense. We are here, in this thread LITERALLY praising Al Green, a democrat, for DOING SOMETHING
I mean, the OP comment I'm responding to is questioning why every other Dem didn't do the same so...are you just intentionally dense or..?
Hence the part about "it won't ever be enough."
Try reading before typing next time.
Edit- down vote all you want. You know I'm right.
Even AOC sat quietly? Why wasn't she fucking protesting?
She wasn't there apparently?
Well that disappointing in itself. She should been there protesting and making our voices heard.
Eh I'm fine with them not attending. Let him speak to a half empty chamber. Bonus points if they spend the time organizing or rallying elsewhere.
The dude relies on you following rules of decorum while he himself breaks every single rule. Why should Democrats play his game? It's extremely likely that it was mostly Republicans watching the thing anyway.
AOC talks a big game, but I’m not personally convinced she follows through.
Case in point, this situation. There should have been more democrats doing the same thing.
Why didn’t anyone do anything? They talk a big game on social media, but that’s it.
I’m thinking they are either controlled opposition or too enthralled to corporate donations to do anything.
Think what you will of the approach given this more disruptive option but she wasn't quietly sitting, she outright refused to attend https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/04/aoc-not-attend-trump-address-to-congress-tuesday/81398760007/
If the rest of her party didn't commit to it I don't think she should have. Seeing one empty seat doesn't have the same effect as walking or being escorted out. Al was the only one doing anything near what should be done on the daily.
another armchair general calling for the dems to arm themselves and perform a revolution or else they're nazi sympathizers
this is what civil politics in a non banana republic looks like
No dumb fuck. You ever read a history book? Congress used to have literal fist fights.
Defending yourselves from being ejected from your literal work place, a place YOUR constituents elected you to be at, by someone who is by not a single ounce of the definition, your boss, is not violence. It is not "arming" yourself, IT IS LITERALLY DOING WHAT YOUR OATH OF OFFICE STATES, TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED FUCKING STATES
no need to shout i'm right here. i imagine you prefer to settle most things with your fists. specially politics
I suppose you'll just lay down and die when they come for you. I grieve for your family and anyone who depends on you.
i'll kill em. but i still prefer my politicians to remain peaceful. that's kinda what they're for
actually come to think of it, why didn't you storm the capitol a month ago like your favourite politician did
another armchair general
ill kill em
lol
Alright now I know you're just a clown, good day.
keep railing against the dems for no reason, acting like an online strongman, and play into the hands of trump
This is very not what civil politics look like unless of course one loves the taste of boot. Mmm boots.
so if we're playing cliche battle are you the heroic revolutionary?
Neither that nor am I showing deference to the wealthy traitors running roughshod over our government turning it into an authoritarian kleptocracy.
There is a middle ground here in the real world.
and the dems not rioting was deference yes?
someone shouting "they didn't do enough" is contributing to progressive politics and saving us from trump
Yes. Suggesting quiet civility in the face of complete disregard for your fellow countrymen is deference. A riot was not suggested. Standing up was.
slicing the ham pretty thinly there but we've all got standards for our political theatre i guess
it's the principle isn't it