European alternatives to non-European apps (2.0)

This is missing Spotify and TomTom unless I am missing something

Thanks for the feedback. It is not supposed to be a complete list. It's a start. You can find more alternatives in our database: https://buy-european.net/

Peertube has this fediverse problem. You google it, go to the webpage and instead of getting a list of promoted videos, you get an explanation of what it is and a manual on how to actually join, starting with „select a pot“. You then get to search the list of pots that all have like 10 viewers and 5gb upload limit. I stopped at this point.

That being said, i really would like an European youtube alternative, but not off the „provide your own hardware“ kind.

Exactly my problem why I'm not really getting into Lemmy either, same with mastodon. The whole decentralization standing in the middle of it all is just annoying.

Also yeah, Peertube did not even look like a competitor at all. Same with Threema with it costing 6 euros to use
Joinpeertube.org doesn’t have the best onboarding, but take a look at the pinned post at [email protected] for a few good servers to choose from.

Organic Maps ftw.

I'd suggest adding waze on there and tomtom amigo as an alternative Also infomaniak as an email alternative You're missing Google Drive -> Filen or Infomaniak

waze was acquired by Google in 2013
- That is the point of placing it in the "needs to be replaced" part?

Isn't mapy.cz just an OSM wrapper, but proprietary?

For maps I'd also like to add Organic Maps, OsmAnd and Magic Earth.

especially Organic Maps, it's got the most user-friendly UI out of the three
Thank you! We already had Organic Maps in the database but I will add OsmAnd and Magic Earth now.
- MagicEarth is the european version of Waze.

Where's Signal (or molly if you need foss)? Signal is an non-profit organisation, so I'd say it can hardly be branded 'from' anywhere unless you're talking about servers location but then...

Thanks for the suggestions!

Here Wego is the worst maps service I've ever had the displeasure of using. Amazon used to use it for deliveries (maybe they still do), and it took almost a year to get it to recognise that my house was not 8 miles away on a completely different road. It messed up the Amazon routes as the route it picked was all in that same area, except my house, that was 8 miles away.

The whole seznam ecosystem is an alternative to Google, unfortunately it's Czech only

Calling Peertube a Youtube alternative is just wrong. It is an alternative in theory but it probably doesn't even have a milionth of the content that Youtube has.

That's the problem with "the winner takes it all" on the Internet. Which European alternative would you suggest instead?
- There is no real YouTube alternative, unfortunately. The content makes a video platform great. No alternative video platform is anywhere close to YouTube in content diversity.
  
  It's unfortunately a very different situation to most other things. For example you can "simply" convince your circle of friends to use Threema. Try convincing your favorite Youtubers to post on any alternative platform and see how far you get.
- I'm not saying PeerTube is bad, but if I was a regular person that wanted an alternative to YouTube, going to PeerTube would be an annoying experience that will probably turn me off from it. You have to let people come with the appropriate expectations.
- Dailymotion ?

Is there a European Android-Alternative?

Android is open source. Most companies make their own versions of android that include google services and their own apps, theming

You can get a version of android without google services or emulated google services. This will make a lot of apps on the google play store not work, but its better for privacy. These are phone-specific so you may not find a version available/supported for the phone you are using. Examples are graphene os(exclusive to pixel phones), lineageos and /e/os

You can also install linux on your phone, but i dont know much about this
/e/os
SailfishOS
How would I utilise these OS on an android phone please?

As a musician, I don't like SoundCloud. The free upload limit is way too small, their compression is not great and every time you do anything they try to sell you one of their subscriptions, which also cost way too much imo.

If other musicians didn't use it as much I would have already thrown it out long ago.

Missing out the big one here - Spotify is also European fyi.

I told OP this in previous post; Spotify gave money to Trumps' inauguration. That's why it was removed.
- Shameless plug for Navidrome
  
  Want your music, always available. No ads, no enshitification. Maximum quality, always reliable?
  
  There is only one clear winner for me.
- We learn and iterate. Thanks for the feedback! We still list Spotify in the database but plan to include quality factors in the (probably not so near) future as well to better differentiate between "European address" and "European commitment".
- That’s a fair point.
left Spotify for Deezer. Spotify owners are fashy.
- I use Spotify Connect quite extensively to put music onto my radio without it being Bluetooth. Does Deezer have an equivalent?
but also platforms right wingers that had an impact on influencing our election. i get i shouldn't be the one guiding boycotts of my own nation's products, i'm just saying spotify has been antihelpful when it comes to the creation of this situation
- Yeah I can totally understand that especially in relation to Rogan etc.

Unfortunately, the PeerTube community is inactive and small. There are basically no interesting videos at all.

That’s not true. Check out the pinned post at [email protected] for a list of content creators. Also check out the home page of PeerTube.wtf that also has a list of content creators.
[email protected] is quite active and tries to highlight interesting content.
- Sorry but 2 posts in the last week can hardly be considered quite active.
- Thanks, I will try it out.
SepiaSeach will search a large number of instances for content. Not a bad start for peertube. But I do agree that it's hard to find good content there.
Yep, as it doesn't have a monetization incentive it will be never that appealing. There should be a way for authors to earn money.
- It’s not about monetisation. It’s about audience. Who is going to bother to host an instance and post to a platform where the most popular videos only get 100 views?
- monetizing life led to the shittiness. don't do it again.

Canada wants to know: why not zoidberg?

I'm using Obsidian. That's Canadian. Very good editor/PKM in my humble opinion.

Any alternative to Trello one of you can recommend?

https://taiga.io/

An FOSS alternative, in Spain.

@[email protected] have you heard of it?
- I hadn't heard about it. Once we add more business software alternatives to the database, I will make sure to keep it in mind. Thanks for the suggestion! :)

Protonmail is missing.

Due to negative feedback in version 1.0 I removed it from the infographic. You can still find it in the database itself.

Aren't almost all of these quite terrible?

DeepL is a good translator, though it has a more limited set of supported languages
I wonder why you think so. Some like Peertube & Threema are definitely poor alternatives but I wouldn't say it's "almost all" either.

Deezer vs Apple Music/Tidal: Deezer has a great selection of music and recommendation algorithm. I've never used Tidal but Deezer is definitely better than Apple Music IMO.

Tuta/Mailbox.org/Posteo vs Gmail: Well, they all let you send and receive emails. Unless you're an enterprise user, I don't see what advantage Gmail would have over the others.

HERE WeGo vs Google Maps: Very recently installed HERE and didn't have any issues so far. This can be a bit location-dependent though.

Ecosia vs Google: Ecosia uses Bing/Google¹ as its search index anyway, so the results are almost exactly the same for me.

DeepL Translate vs Google Translate: DeepL has a more limited selection of languages but for the languages it supports, it's the undisputed king.

Bolt vs Uber: I only used Bolt a few times while I was in Portugal and it seemed fine. Maybe this is also location-dependent.

¹I think it's Bing by default but you can configure it to use Google in the settings.
Not at all.
- Of course you would disagree, you're promoting them.