And is about as bare bones as you can get. Sorry, but that just doesn't cut it today. People have moved on from ONLY needing VOIP. Sharing images, videos, text, etc. is a big part of gaming communities now. Even small groups will want to share info from time to time that Mumble just can't do well.
Suggesting Mumble is like suggesting someone get a bike when they're asking what type of car they should get. Yea, sure, you can make a bunch of arguments for why a bike is better and why cars are bad, but at the end of the day; if the person is wanting an actual car, your suggestion is not helpful, useful, or appreciated.
Not really. I mostly used Element, but I also tried fractal which seemed decent.
The tough thing is that the supported features are changing rapidly, so what might be a good client one year might be out of date the next year. I also had a lot of issues with Element randomly logging me out on my self-hosted server :/
TeamSpeak was never “here” in the first place, it certainly had its niche among certain gaming communities, but it - never - had as much traction as Discord does today.
I am sure a design refresh is going to lure some older gamers back, but I am unconvinced it’ll even make a dent in Discord usage.
Pc gaming was a lot smaller back then too. More serious communities all had a vent or teams peak. That only started to die down when xfire came out and brought anothed influx of non pc people (or someone thst only played one game like ever quest) into gaming spaces.
Less centralized services is a good thing. As long as self hosting isn't intentionally worse in some way I see this as a great thing for competition. I don't want discord viewing my data, and I don't want to pay them to be able to share a video over 8mb with what is essentially the new form of group chat for a lot of people.
"internet thing from 20 years ago was smaller than big, VC backed social media giant from today. Therefore, thing that was defacto standard 20 years ago was never relevant" is a hell of a take
No its got voice calls with jitsi implementation along with their own built in "element chat" that has been implemented or is still being tested to be implemented.
That and 1 on 1 calls work out of the box with no jitsi or element chat configuration. (Still need coturn)
One of my friend groups does a weird thing that I love. We use Discord for video sharing and TeamSpeak for audio while we watch stuff on a shared site. I like the disconnect because we can hop to different rooms in TeamSpeak while seeing people in discord. Sometimes people will call shots, drawing art, etc. and you’ll just see it while being in something like a “quiet convo” TS room to watch the video without drunk people talking over it. People join and you can wave to them while not having to say anything because you’re in a different room with others. It’s like a real party room kinda vibe where you can see everyone but not hear everyone and you form your little groups organically without talking over each other.
It’s niche, but I wish TS/Discord just had that natively.
Still run a team speak server and also run discord. Our teamspeak voice gets a ton more use but people stream on discord the game they are playing. But they still use teamspeak for voice. Because text isn't persistent on TS we use discord for text and a web forum for long term persistence.
They each have their place. If you can make discord work for you in all cases more power to you but we couldn't.
This ts version looks like they are trying to lose the few parts of their consumer base they have left. If we wanted discord for everything we would have already left TS.