We just added Alexandrite to the server, it's an alternative desktop UI for Lemmy created by Sheodox who worked tirelessly to make the necessary changes to we could host it ourselves here. So go to https://a.lemmy.world and have a look!
He continues to update it constantly, you can follow the development on his github page or in his community. If you like what you see and want to support him, why not buy him a coffee? :)
For those who don't have Lemmy World as their home instance and want to use Alexandrite, either ask your instance admins to add it or go to https://alexandrite.app!
Edit: I should probably have mentioned that Alexandrite is meant for desktop!
It's really great that you are moving so quickly and supporting your community in this way, but I wonder if all these front ends are potentially going to create a bit of a long term maintenance headache? How are we certain that they don't introduce any new vulnerabilities and how are we staying on top of those when they happen? I worry that each new frontend adds burden to an already small community for a potentially minor practical gain.
Don't get me wrong, you guys are doing awesome stuff, and I'm consistently impressed with this instance. That's just the first thing that comes to my head having done software for many years myself.
Maintenance in regards to updates is not an issue. All the extra frontends we added run in docker and are automatically updated twice a day to make sure we are always running the latest stable versions. All apps are using the Lemmy api's just like the 3rd party apps and should anything break we have ways to contact the developers.
How did you set them up to automatically update? Have you done a write up on how you set these up? Would be great for other admins to be able to do the same
(dev here) Sorry! The post forgot to mention Alexandrite is meant to be a alternate UI for desktop. There are a lot of issues if you try using it on mobile at the moment, because I haven't done the work to support it yet. I would keep using whatever you've been using on mobile.
The genius thing about it is the way it fully utilizes the whole width of a display, with the post content appearing in between the list of posts and the sidebar. I haven't seen another Lemmy/Kbin UI that does this.
It might only be suitable for widescreen desktop use, but it does that one thing very well.
There is https://old.lemmy.world, which I am using. It even has a dark mode! It does have a few missing features. The message field doesn't have any formatting buttons, you can't change the shortcuts up top, the submissions don't have alternating colors (but comments do!), and the preview button for messages sends your message to the server, which breaks often and deletes your message.
I want to caution that every new ui is a potential security risk. When it's a mobile app then it's entirely on the user to decide if they trust it, but when it's hosted the host is implicitly giving a seal of approval so I think at least a bit of a code audit should be done, especially since xss is much more of a risk on the web.
There's already been one security breach on the default Lemmy skin, so I think it would be a good idea to do an audit for every new hosted ui and include a section for it on these posts. You don't necessarily need to crawl through every line of course, but it'd be good to cover what framework and rendering engine it uses and acknowledge any risks associated with them.
We have the devs of all but one of the alternative UI's on our discord server. We try to provide options for our users as well as give some extra exposure to the Lemmy developers community by hosting these on LW. It's actually pretty cool to see that devs from different apps are going through each other's code and are being helpful. And other community members are actively helping the developers test (and request) new features.
So that is one of the things that we did to "play safe". But I understand your concern and I'll have a talk with the team how we can organise something like a code review of the UI's we host.
We have one more UI to be announced soon. And that will most likely be the last one we will add.
Just dropping in to say this UI is beautiful and the features are superb. Thank yous for all the lemmy world staff and Sheodox for the time and dedication!
I'm pretty happy with Voyager on mobile, but when writing something, it's not ideal.
The generic Lemmy UI is more than OK on desktop, but the lack of error code reporting to the user was frustrating, at times I tried to resubmit posts and comments and the spinning Submit button just kept on going, for some communities in particular. So I stopped posting in these communities.
Now, with Alexandrite, I feel like this is a good UI that I really like. And I love that you write out the background error message for why posting or commenting fails!
Lack of error codes is something I see often even in professional website development. Even Windows has run into that issue now; Click button. Button loads. Button stops - no action. Or, the application just closes.
I think with the separation of product design and engineers in modern teams, it ends up being really hard for everyone to settle on a good path for errors on every single little thing - and including that in the design can make you "feel" your product is error prone, even if 99% of people never see any of those.
+1 for this. I'm also excited to see photon being implemented as one of the frontends. Exciting times! And kudos to all the people working behind the scenes. Your works are really appreciated 😊
Seeing custom web UIs being deployed officially and directly on the same domain as Lemmy instances is incredibly encouraging. I wonder if my Leanish will be polished enough to be published that way eventually.
I'm in love! Smooth, modern, and simple. One thing to note - the "hue" option for the theme in the settings is not very obvious at first or comfortable. We need some kind of visible color pallete or some squares with color options.
Also, Ctrl+Enter should allow me to post my reply immediately, but it doesn't.
Great stuff! I've been using Alexandrite for the last few weeks and it's become my default UI. I love that you can pin the navigation bar open and favourite communities (click on the icon to star it).
This is excellent news :) I've been using Alexandrite since u/sheodox announced it so I'm very pleased to see it added as a dedicated front end for .world :)
There's a slider in the settings for the hue used for all the background/borders/text etc, so you can change it from purple to other colors, like:
Eventually I plan on adding more customization so you can change the colors of links/votes, and I need to make a light theme because so many people want that too.
Says I'm rate limited, then on refresh, banned. I don't think any other person in my household uses lemmy.world at all, so I wonder if it's just the high amount of traffic going to it from Comcast users.
Yep, loved it so much I contacted @[email protected] to help us add it to the instance. He added some changes to Selfhost, put it all in a docker container and made it all happen in a couple of days ❤️
I'm sure more admins will be adding it to their instance!
Wow, I love this a lot. Initially chuckled at the theme color slider in the settings, but it's unironically a great way to edit that haha.
My instance (lemdro.id) has Photon as their modern look alternative, which also looks pretty sleek IMO, but I think I'll be using this going forward mostly because it's more desktop-looking than Photon's more mobile-centric layout.
Fantastic work on this, can't wait to see how it grows going forward.
Photon dev here, what's mobile-centric about it? I actually aimed for it to work well on both. The reason the pages don't span the whole distance is for legibility reasons.
I actually aimed for this to be desktop first, that's why i use buttons instead of gestures.
Your decision is good though, I personally think Alexandrite is much better than Photon.
It definitely functions well on both, I don't mean to suggest that it's meant for mobile.
But yeah, I think it's mostly the fact that all the content is only on the center 1/3 of my screen. To me, that just feels a lot like a mobile view compared to something that uses the whole area of the browser.
A lot of social sites on the modern web look this way now, and generally it's a result of them trying to prioritize mobile uses first, so when I see it anywhere now it's just a "oh, this is a mobile site" in my mind.
The layout doesn't work very well with narrow window widths, or on mobile screens. It's only comfortable to use if you expand the window to at least a 1080p window width, so it's not very useful on a desktop using tiling window management.
This is great! Going to be using this from now on!
I would love it if the content was centered tho. Other than that this is what I've been looking for!
I also love that they added endless scrolling. This is really a must in any social networks nowadays.
Did you sign in on there? The login session on lemmy.world and a.lemmy.world isn't shared, so you'll need to login on a.lemmy.world to post/comment on there.
When I try to post anything with Alexandrite active I get told something about Language not Allowed or some similar alert. I like the look, but the inability to post is kind of a deal breaker.
Some communities can restrict which languages you're allowed to post in, and I haven't yet made Alexandrite respect that list, I imagine that's what you're running into. Fixing this is on my todo list!
Hey, just wanted to let you know this should be fixed now!
There are a few moving parts here: instances have a list of all languages it knows about, admins can restrict what can be used on the site ("discussion languages"), and communities can further restrict what languages they allow (if no mods speak Swedish, no use allowing it because you can't moderate it), and on top of that you can select which languages you use in Lemmy's settings. Alexandrite now respects all these settings/restrictions.
Some communities only allow posting in "Undetermined", and Alexandrite defaults to selecting "English", so if it was in one of those communities that's why you were having issues. Should be good now though.
Very nice, wonder if anyone will make a large media feed version of lemmy for desktop OS. I get the love of old.reddit but personally, I like a large image/video feed like in the apps.
I like this very much, so much indeed that I would like to be able to install it as a web application on my phone like I was able to do with Photon (install button is not showing up however)
Love the UI, however when I go to another community from the homepage I cannot get it to go back to homepage (without clicking the Lemmy.world banner top left). The back button changes the URL to the previous page, but the page itself stays on whatever community I opened.
okay, yes, i dig it. especially the much better arranged comment trees. and the content on the right side is actually a quite nice idea. after hiding the sidebar you can basically scroll and consume in a endless loop. This may or may not be something good..