Friendly reminder that blue lives don't exist.
You choose to be a cop you don't choose your skin color
Exactly. But the “blue lives matter” group only formed as a counter to Black Lives Matter so 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah... But it was promoted through money paid by Russian Intelligence in order to sow racial discord in America.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russians-biggest-facebook-ad-promoted-blue-lives-matter
Yeah, but a lot of dumb people who could have supported BLM were swayed by Blue Lives Matter or All Lives Matter bullshit, especially if they work in or around emergency. There's a lot of non-conservatives in emergency fields that are especially succeptable to that kind of bullshit despite being otherwise good human beings.
I've talked at least two away from the "Blue/All Lives Matter" ledge. You have to do it delicately, but the whole problem with all this shit is that there ARE people who are not really racist who can be convinced that "there's a lot of cops dying in BLM riots" because that's what they're being told. When you have black friends who says "I don't want to be anywhere near BLM because they just make us look bad", you know that people are spreading some real fake shit. But instead of hating on them, you can just show them that BLM is not riots and Blue Lives Matter is not about stopping cops from being killed.
And then, the ones who aren't racist... they do listen.
I'm stealing this! Right on. "Blue Lives Matter" is just for Smurfs and the cyanotic.
And people with argyria (though that’s a very self-inflicted issue..)
You mean ACAB doesn't mean Assigned Cop At Birth?? 😱
But the other professions don’t need to defend themselves against blatant racism and abuse of power. “This is a dangerous profession, which is why we shot an unarmed black teenager 117 times.”
You had me in the first half not gonna lie
this comment is missing context. maybe the black teen had a possesion charge ?
The most dangerous part of police work is vehicle accidents, just like delivery drivers.
Covid was also a top fatality result of police for a while there. Just showcasing their amazing decision making skills as they refuse to get vaccinated.
Clearly they represent the best of the best there.
My local city jail literally got shut down by the tail-end of the pandemic, because of all the COVID outbreaks due to none of the cops would wear masks.
Delivery drivers also are more likely than police to be subject to robberies...
It's also not unheard of for robbery to end in murder.
You forgot sex workers, which is actually the most dangerous job.
Depends, online, or real skin contact, in the EU or in africa?
could you elaborate why exactly
Violence and diseases. In consequence many sex workers get hurt regularly during their job, some get killed and many have PTSD and/or abuse drugs and alcohol.
In countries were sex work is legal this does not get significantly better, btw. I live in Germany where sex work is legal since 1950 or something and it's a job you even have to pay tax for. They still suffer from violence. There was a protest this year to give better protection from violence.
It's probably not listed here, because it's illegal in the USA
People forget about deep sea welders. Literally 15% fatality rate.
That's insane. How in the world do they rationalize that to themselves?
Lots of money... like insane money for how much work it is.
It’s a combination of $2000/day wages, combined with a “I’m smarter than all those idiots who died” attitude.
Because they make ridiculous amounts of money. There are very few people who can do the job, it's extremely dangerous and even if you don't get injured or killed, it's very hard on your body. Iirc most divers only do it 2-3 times a year because it takes a long time to safely decompress at the depths they usually work at (it can take days or even weeks) and then they have to take time off to physically and mentally recover.
What about fire fighters? At least they do everything in their power to keep your dog alive.
So they're the opposite of the ATF?
Yeah, that does not rock.
But also
a very small minority of firefighters who are also active arsonists
Another way in which they are different.
How would this fit into Abigail Thorn's (Philosophy Tube) analogy of arsonism?
Those are just fire bugs that didn't think their career choice through.
Where do you get the idea that pilot is the 3rd most dangerous job? How often do you hear about pilots dying? And more dangerous than driving jobs? Lol no.
The majority of aircraft pilot fatalities occur in crashes of privately owned planes and helicopters rather than on regularly scheduled commercial jet aircraft.
https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-united-states
By the way, most deaths aren't reported on the news.
We talking about jobs. Therefore commercial.
Just now got a push message stating that the jobs of Dutch policemen were very dangerous, according to the union, because of bad communication technology.
Historically, shitty radio communication has gotten a LOT of people killed during emergencies. I'm perfectly willing to accept you can shave off a few percents of risk by getting Dutch cops better radios. But it's hardly going to move the needle compared to "unskilled" Labour such as construction.
I do workplace safety in the Netherlands, so allow me to trot some numbers out.
3800 people die every year as a result of their jobs. 2500 from cancer, 700 from coronary issues. Over 400 die from falling or car crashes. So about 200 people die from all the stuff you'd generally associate with gruesome workplace hazards. Now, generally when I hold this talk, the point is "stop being a moron around chemicals", but this time my point is "Dutch cops are really unlikely to die from their work".
I feel like a position of authority, the weapons, and the qualified immunity letting you put hands on anyone for any bullshit reason you want make you the danger, not in danger.
Police officers have the highest suicide rate after Doctors and Dentists. Not sure if it's because of poor stress management or being constantly in contact with some of the shittiest people to live.
“being constantly in contact with some of the shittiest people to live.”
So other cops then. I’d probably kill myself too if I were a cop.
Lets be honest, plenty non cops are really shitty in ways different from the shitty that drives you to be a cop. Cops do deal with these other people as well. So a cop has shitty people on all sides.
Its an impossible tasks and society must construct itself as to not have police bc they cannot do the job asked even regardless of the value of the work (which is none as well)
Constant contact with guns too maybe.
Let's be honest. Guns aren't possessed, have an evil or sinister aura, or anything else that could possibly drive people mad or insane. As someone who grew up with guns in the house, they're just ordinary objects that you handle with care.
Btw one of those six other jobs is pizza delivery.
is this some kind of quote from The Deprogram?
No, seriously. It's more dangerous to be a pizza delivery guy than a cop.
Pilots have no business being on there. Just because people are scared of flying, doesn’t mean it’s actually dangerous.
Bush pilots probably drive the statistics up pretty far because it's dangerous in general and many of them keep flying long after commercial retirement ages.
Most pilots aren't commerical passenger pilots. Most are crop dusters and priority freight
And yet they do, statistically, die more than most other jobs. Pilots have every business being on here because the comic creator just literally took a "top X dangerous jobs list" and turned it into a meme.
Passengering is safe. Piloting, less so. Just like riding in a bus is statistically safer than being a career driver. Because you get off the bus, and that driver does 7 more runs. Alongside a long-haul truck driver carrying zero people. Etc. But Piloting is more dangerous than driving a truck.
Piloting of what aircraft type?
It’s pretty rare to hear about a commercial flight resulting in a crash or even death.
If you’re talking about commercial pilots flying around passengers then no it’s not dangerous at all, certainly not compared to truck drivers. To say it’s dangerous because they do it everyday is silly. Reality is it’s one of the safest forms of travel. Trucking is not nearly as safe and has a lot more risk factors involved.
If you’re strictly talking about bush pilots then you might have a case but there’s not as many bush pilots compared to commercial pilots in order for it to significantly skew the statistics.
A lot more truck drivers die in a year from accidents then commercial pilots. Calling pilots jobs more dangerous is hella silly bro.
I thought the most dangerous one was president, at an 18% fatality rate (8 out of 45 so far)
I would guess it looks better if you include not USA
This is
RedditLemmy, everything is always America unless specified otherwise
There's more than 45 presidents
Of all the panels to omit, removing the groping one is just weird. Especially considering the subject is, you know, cops.
huh what panel?
The third panel:
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/224480326/3rd-Place-Celebration
He kisses and gropes the woman presenting the medal.
Where are farmers?
Certainly not going to the hospital or reporting their injuries, always something more important to do on the farm.
It's because they have too much power. Gets to their head. Same with politicians, though they usually don't go round shooting people.
Fuck tha police
Risky strategy. COPulation often leads to domestic abuse, after all..
STEEL WORKERS YAHHHHHHHHH UNITED STEEL WORKERS OO RAHH
Where do you get the idea that pilot is the 3rd most dangerous job? How often do you hear about pilots dying? And more dangerous than driving jobs? Lol no.
Idk man.
I've been privileged enough to live in mostly good neighborhoods throughout my life and especially in smaller towns those police do good, often difficult work. Bringing home some town drunk who's acting difficult with access to a gun for example without it becoming an escalated scene IMO is a feat I could not do.
I just wish that in the more dangerous areas and areas where we are having trouble with police brutality for example, we could have offers to police with good standing to be relocated and compensated to help move out the bad police.
So for example if we're having issues with police brutality in Portland OR, fire those police, then pay to relocate police with high standing clean records from diverse areas to move to these areas.
The things I see in California sometimes I'm not sure that there's an amount of money you could pay me to deal with half these things.
Although cops are becoming more and more power drunk it doesn't mean their job isn't dangerous, especially in countries* where every nutcase can get a semi-auto easily.
*USA, war torn countries , Latin America.
Okay, but imagine a job at which you have to ring the doorbell of these people every few minutes
That'd be psychological torture.
The statistic in question is literally about American jobs.
garbage men
No shit, if you act like a fucking garbage, you'll have it coming! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!
