Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Sunday he believes former President Trump will have similar views of the Israel-Hamas war to those of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu if he is reelected. …
“To those people who are saying, ‘Well, I can’t support Harris because she disagrees [with] Trump on that issue’ … he will be closer to Netanyahu,” Sanders said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
Sanders said he thinks Vice President Harris can be moved “on that issue” of the Israel-Hamas war.
Harris has called for a cease-fire deal and pushed for the war in Gaza to end, but she faces scrutiny from both sides — from people who want to see Hamas defeated and those who call for the end of the war in Gaza.
“So, if we are able to elect Harris, I think we’re going to have an opportunity to move her on that issue, to make it clear, we cannot allow children in Gaza to starve to death,” Sanders said. “She will be open to that. I doubt that Trump will.”
I don't want to hear you guys every say you want old people out of politics, while you simp for this old, ineffectual mummy. He needs to go away with the rest of the geriatrics and let the young policy makers take over
He is right. Trump will do whatever the evangelical hard right want, which in the case of the Middle East is to pump as much support, weapons, and money into Israel, purely so they can trigger Armageddon and try to fulfill their wet dreams of Supply-Side Jesus coming down off his cloud. Also doesn't help that trump is a flagrant racist who would be happy to see more 'brown-skinned' people die.
Good on Sanders. It feels like he always has to be dragged kicking and screaming to support the party (and likely would be even more influential if he just played the game) but he is a voice that people might listen to.
That said: It is important to remember that the majority of the "No, I want support genocide LA LA LA LA LA LA LA" crowd either listen to or are tankies that are, at best, useful idiots for putin et al. They don't care about Palestine and they sure as hell don't care about anyone else that trump et al will genocide if elected.
I don't think you know what the word "gaslight(ing)" means
If people actually cared about the Palestinians they would advocate for harm reduction and any hope for them rather than all but guaranteeing their eradication under trump. It is a very slim chance but there is hope that the Kamala administration will at least give israel fewer bombs or demand they be used for things that benefit US interests (like attacking iran) rather than cheering on the genocide.
But, to elaborate, the Palestinians have a long history of mostly beiing a political tool. In the past, when there were chances to evacuate them as refugees, the majority of neighboring countries actively refused (ironically citing fears of Hamas led insurrections). But when it is a way to bleed resources out of israel they suddenly are all humanitarians.
And considering how many prominent mouthpieces are, at best, useful idiots for the tankies? It is hard to believe that suddenly, after everyone discovered Palestine existed on October 8th, that is truly the greatest issue facing the planet (especially when other active genocides are still ignored).
If I was in a swing state then I would vote for Harris to prevent Trump from getting in, but I'm not in a swing state so I'm going to vote for a candidate that I actually like.
Since my state (California) would never turn red, the best thing I can do in my vote is to help my actual preferred candidate get access to campaign funds.
But again, I do think those in swing states should do whatever they can to prevent Trump from getting in.
We will kill them slowly vs we will kill them faster.
For a year now instead of escalation, the democrats allow Israel to commit a genocide in Gaza, continue genocide in west bank, attack Lebanon, attack Iran, attack Yemen.
For you, if you are okay with these two options that great. Other people refuse to be part of the killing of their people and you cannot force them to take your position.
Slow death is far more preferably then it isn't incurable and terminal. It creates an opportunity to stop the death. A peace agreement a year from now under Harris means way more people are still alive than if it's under Trump.
That's all that should matter. Slowing it gives time for intervention and for an opposition coalition to grow. This conflict has been going on for decades. Do you really believe things would be better if Israel just killed everyone 20 years ago? Do you believe things will be better if Israel kills everyone now, versus this conflict still existing in 20 years?
Consider to what actual Palestinians in Gaza are saying. They have a clear preference for Harris over Trump.
No the don't, their position is clear that both are evil and they don't care who is running the show. Their position is to resist even without a gun they will pickup a rock ot a stick. Their position is the rather die fighting than dying on bed a slow death.
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