Jill Stein delivers scathing response to Harris-Trump debate and urges Green alternative
Jill Stein delivers scathing response to Harris-Trump debate and urges Green alternative
This is a debate between the parties of war and Wall Street who agree with each other on the fundamentals of our economy and on the fundamentals of our foreign policy
Jill’s solution to “endless war” is to disband NATO, stop supporting Ukraine, and hand Kyiv to Putin. With NATO disbanded, further European countries will be sure to follow.
A lot of that platform actually sounds good. But you are right.
Disband NATO and replace it with a modern, inclusive security framework that respects the security interests of all nations and people
Thats pretty vague, so no idea what this entails in reality.
Putin's Jizz Stein also wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing 'peace' (subjugation) negotiations with russia.
For those of you that don't understand how the Electoral College works, voting for her means donald will be president. Have fun wasting your time reading the article.
Reported for misinformation, but I'm not seeing a problem here.
Wants NATO disbanded? Give up the Security Council vote?
https://www.jillstein2024.com/peace_platform
https://www.isidewith.com/candidates/jill-stein/policies/foreign-policy/nato
Unsupport Ukraine?
https://www.isidewith.com/candidates/jill-stein/policies/foreign-policy/ukraine
Pretty much everything you'd expect from a Putin backed candidate.
And for the record guys, I'm not the one who reported for disinformation. Just getting that out of the way now, before accusations from other posters come at me! lol
BUT I think it may be the part where the poster says "voting for her means donald will be president."
No, voting for her doesn't automatically mean donald will be president. I mean, he "could" be, but it's not set in stone. That's an opinion of the poster, not an actual fact.
But I personally think that could have been pointed out to the poster, rather than reporting for misinformation.
No one cares about the opinions of a Putin supporting Republican shill.
I guess some people do, I mean, they made a news article out of the subject.
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If it took only 10 seconds to post each time, and 20 seconds to make a comment, that means you have spent:
(198 * 10) + (1240 * 20) = 26780 secondsOr, 7.44 hours, in one month. That's almost 5% the amount of time people spend working full time. Almost a full work day. And these are extremely generous estimates that assume you are very fast. I have no doubt you have spent minutes responding to some of the comments calling you out.
A more realistic set of numbers would be
(198 * 30) + (1240 * 45) = 61740 secondsOr, 17.15 hours, in one month. That's almost 43% the amount of time people spend working full time. Over 2 full work days.
To calculate the number of times you submitted content per waking hour:
(198 + 1240) / (16 * 30) = 3Or once every 20 minutes on average, assuming you sleep. Almost every single one promoting third party candidates. Totally and completely not sus, at all. Not even a little bit.
I don't have to explain anything to you. But keep posting stats because I am posting more articles. Thank you!
She's trying so damn hard to get Trump elected lmao.
Almost as hard as OP is, whatever his name is this week.
Almost as hard as OP is, whatever his name is this week.
Not sure what you mean. I also just posted a libertarian article where he wants to take down Trump. Hmmm...
https://lemmy.world/post/19662638
Doesn't really fit your narrative though, does it? But hey, you believe what you wanna belive. I don't care.
It's a fine take and I mean, I'd love to have the option to vote for that alternative, but realistically right now, none of us do. No matter which side of the aisle you're on, if you abandon the side you'd normally vote for to vote third party, you're only helping your own personal worst case scenario.
Really, all of these third party... parties should be focusing more on pushing for an alternate voting system. I know they say we should get away from two-party politics, but I rarely see any actual action taken to try and accomplish that. Ranked-choice was on the ballot 4 years ago in MA, but didn't pass, and if these third parties had poured their campaign budget into getting it passed, they'd be getting my vote in November. As it stands, they won't be. Their policies, frankly, don't matter, because we can't vote for them, as much as we'd like to, without voting against our own self-interests and really, those of the entire country.
Any third party that only focuses on the presidency isn't a real party. Jill Stein isn't actually running for president. She is simply a foreign agent of Putin trying to act as a spoiler against the Democratic ticket. That is literally the only reason she is running.
Real political parties try to build power from the ground up. You want your party to be a serious candidate for president? Try winning several hundred state house seats and least a few dozen US house seats, maybe a Senator or two. I disagree vehemently with the Libertarian Party, but I'll give them credit for being a real political party. Clowns like Stein, Kennedy, and West are just Republican agents running as spoiler candidates. They have zero intention of winning. Their only goal is to appeal to their own vanity and to syphon off a few percentage points from the Democratic candidate. That is the only reason they are running. They take Republican and Russian money and are doing the bidding of their masters. Anyone who even considered voting for them is a fool.
Real political parties try to build power from the ground up.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States (thanks to @[email protected] for the info)
State-Level Green Party Officials (Former)
- Shane Robinson - Maryland, House, District 39 (2011-2019)
- Henry Bear - Maine, House, District 144 (2013-2019)
- Ralph Chapman - Maine, House, District 133 (2010-2019)
- Fred Smith - Arkansas, House, District 50 (2011-2015)
- Richard Carroll - Arkansas, House, District 39 (2009-2011)
- John Eder - Maine, House, District 118 (2003-2007)
- Matt Ahearn - New Jersey, General Assembly, District 38 (2002-2004)
- Audie Bock - California, State Assembly, District 16 (1999-2000)
Current Green Party Mayors
- Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois (2021-2025)
- Bruce Delgado - Marina, California (2008-2024)
- Emmanuel Estrada - Baldwin Park, California (2020-2024)
Former Green Party Mayors
- John Reed - Fairfax, California
- Mike Feinstein - Santa Monica, California
- David Doonan - Greenwich, New York
- Kelley Wearvering - Cordova, Alaska
- Robb Davis - Davis, California
- Peter Gleichman - Ward, Colorado
- Jim Sullivan - Victory, New York
- Jason West - New Paltz, New York
Current Green Party City & County Council Members
- Sylvia R. Chavez - Calipatria, California
- David Conley - Douglas County, Wisconsin
- Josiah Dean - Dufur, Oregon
- Becky Elder - Manitou Springs, Colorado
- Bob Gifford - Portage County, Wisconsin
- Renée Goddard - Fairfax, California
- David Grover - Trinidad, California
- Damon Jespersen - Newbury, Massachusetts
- John Keener - Pacifica, California
- Rebecca Kemble - Madison, Wisconsin
- Paul Pitino - Arcata, California
- Marsha A. Rummel - Madison, Wisconsin
- George P. Steeves - Southbridge, Massachusetts
- Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
- Daniel Welsh - Lewisboro, New York
- Heidi Weigleitner - Dane County, Wisconsin
- Stephen Zollman - Sebastopol, California
Former Green Party City & County Council Members
- Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois
- George Altgelt - Laredo, Texas
- Michael Beilstein - Corvallis, Oregon
- Bruce Delgado - Marina, California
- Jessica Bradshaw - Carbondale, Illinois
- Michael Cornell - River Hill Village
- Jennifer Dotson - Ithaca, New York
- Kathleen Fitzpatrick - Mosier, Oregon
- Gail Garrett - Mount Washington, Massachusetts
- Matt Gonzalez - San Francisco, California
- Cam Gordon - Minneapolis, Minnesota
- Art Goodtimes - San Miguel County, Colorado
- Daniel Hamburg - Mendocino County, California
- Michelle Haynes - Norwood, Colorado
- Gary Hull - Sharpsburg, Maryland
- Tanya Ishikawa - Federal Heights, Colorado
- Brian Kehoe - Catskill, New York
- Jason Kirkpatrick - Arcata, California
- Mary Jo Long - Afton, New York
- Tom Mair - Grand Traverse County, Michigan
- Sarah Marsh - Fayetteville, Arkansas
- Merrily Mazza - Lafayette, Colorado
- Gayle McLaughlin - Richmond, California
- Ross Mirkarimi - San Francisco, California
- Leland Pan - Dane County, Wisconsin
- Dona Spring - Berkeley, California
- Chuck Turner - Boston, Massachusetts
Other Green Party Local Officials (Current)
- Michael Clary - Coos County, Oregon
- Jennifer Baker - Napa Valley College, California
- Matthew Clark - San Mateo County
- Billy Gene Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
- Carl D'Amato - Waterford, Connecticut
- Daphne Dixon - Fairfield, Connecticut
- Matt Donahue - Benton County, Oregon
- Maureen Doyle - Southbridge, Massachusetts
- Andrew Frascarelli - Waterford, Connecticut
- Frank Gatti - Amherst, Massachusetts
- Michael Paul Hansen - Humboldt County, California
- Jane Jarlsberg - San Bernardino County, California
- Joshua Steele Kelly - Waterford, Connecticut
- Vincent O'Connor - Amherst, Massachusetts
- Sharron Parra - Hyampom, California
- Vahe Peroomian - Glendale Community College, California
- John Powell - Montecito, California
- Colleen Ann Reidy - Thompsonville, Connecticut
- Rebecca Rotzler - New Paltz, New York
- Leif Smith - Redding, Connecticut
- Darcy Van Ness - Waterford, Connecticut
- Baird Welch-Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
- Randy Marx - Fair Oaks Water District, Sacramento County, California
- Fred McCann - Portland Water District, Portland, Maine
- Garrett Erven - Red Wing, Minnesota
Other Green Party Local Officials (Former)
- John Amarilios - New Canaan, Connecticut
- Korie Blyveis - Newberg Township, Michigan
- Hector Lopez - New Canaan, Connecticut
- Kim O'Connor - Hillsborough County, Florida
- Jill Stein - Lexington, Massachusetts
- Raymond C. Meyer - Lucas County Health Center, Iowa
- Amy Martenson - Napa Valley College, California
- MK Merelice - Brookline, Massachusetts
- Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
abandon the side you’d normally vote for
That's part of the liberal delusion we would not vote for a democrat or Republican, because we are not Democrats or Republicans. They do not represent the needs of the marginalized, the working class, They only represent the needs and the wants of the donor class. They only listen to the donor class While our needs get ignored.
Yep! Well said!
I’d love to have the option to vote for that alternative, but realistically right now, none of us do.
I do and I AM voting for an alternative.
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To cut through the nonsense and save everyone time, especially since many in this community have a habit of resorting to personal attacks when responding to posts recently: I support and respect everyone’s right to vote for who they want to.
I'm just posting this article that’s already available on a much bigger platform than Lemmy—I didn’t write it, just sharing it for discussion.
