World population to shrink in 21st century amid birthrate fall: UN
World population to shrink in 21st century amid birthrate fall: UN
TOKYO (Kyodo) -- The world population is expected to start shrinking within this century after hitting a peak in the mid-2080s due to lower fertility
The world population is expected to start shrinking within this century after hitting a peak in the mid-2080s due to lower fertility levels, particularly in China, according to the latest projection by the United Nations.
Fucking good.
Seriously.
The only people with reason to be concerned is the ultra wealthy
At literally every point of modern history, a reduction in the amount of humans was beneficial for the vast amount of humans in the long run.
Like, even the Black Death led to reduced wealth inequality and the beginnings of workers rights.
When labor is scarce, workers get treated better. When there's a surplus of workers, people are desperate for a job and will work for little.pay in unsafe conditions.
There were riots during the Black Death too. Lots of bills and an overtaxed population lead to the Great Rising.
it's almost as if the capitalist system doesn't have our best interests at heart... who would have thought.
However, who replaces the aging workforce? Who pays for social security? Back in the 60s, it was a ratio of 6 workers per 1 retired. Now, it's 3:1. Soon, it'll be 2:1. That's bad. Very bad.
A smaller working population and a large inactive population create huge labour shortages which must be filled by migrant labour which creates additional problems.
One solution is enabling people to work for longer but this is challenging. Do we push the retirement age to 75? What about the declining health and abilities of ther population.
People are having children much later than normal. Births under the age of 20 have dropped 90% in the last 10 years. We are aging faster than we are replacing.
reduction in the amount of humans was beneficial for the vast amount of humans in the long run.
This is literally Nazi speech. This is literally genocide rhetoric. Shame on you.
The Black Death lead to people literally dying. It wasn't beneficial in the long run at all. It killed millions. That's a lot of human data both in DNA terms and knowledge that died. That's a lot of inventions dead.
When workers must work for a capitalist, or a king, or a pharoah, and they lose their bargaining power, their conditions are bad. Not when there's "lots" of them. That's just the nature of humans being a social species, we are made for "lots" of us. As long as we are each empowered, then having people alive and thriving is no issue.
Yes we are, but with appropriate precautions.
But muh free revenue growth
The rich will cry though.
More than cry, they'll crash the market over their fears of less profit than last year, then they'll get government aide, and then we'll pay for it for the next decade until they do it again.
The global population, currently at 8.2 billion, is projected to reach approximately 10.3 billion by the mid-2080s and then gradually decrease to around 10.2 billion by the end of the century, according to the U.N. report on world population prospects released last month.
2 billion more people than we have now isn't much of a decrease... I don't know about maintaining that trend long enough to actually decrease from what we have now, which is already overpopulated.
Too little, too late.
Climate change means we probably won't exceed 9 billion anyway.
Once crop failures, drought, and extreme weather cause resource wars, famine, climate refugees, and double digit inflation, the population will start to fall rapidly.
We're not really overpopulated, we just live unsustainable lifestyles and overconsume especially at the top of the wealth rungs. Why go for population degrowth as the solution before tackling the myriad other city planning, economic, and wealth-inequality-rooted problems?
Is it easier to imagine great famine and to wish for even more declining birth rates than to ask questions like: "should we be moving past capitalism?"
Yeah. 25% more people than we have now is not shrinking by any stretch of the imagination.
That's a pretty long prediction window, no? I feel like a lot can happen in even just 20 years to mess up any assumptions, like open war between super powers (maybe China and USA over Taiwan), big water migration movements by worsening climate change, new pandemics, countries intervening in their sinking birth rate trends, things like that.
The problem is that even if everybody started fucking now, it wouldn't change the fact that many countries including China are on pace to not be able to even maintain their current GDP in the 2030's and other than doing something to replace human labor (bringing people in or automation) to maintain or increase their GDP, there is nothing else they can do. It is too late.
Everyone is in trouble here but some are worse off than others. Especially when they're going to have to figure out what to do with people that will be aging out of the workforce.
Pandemics and wars do not appreciably increase birth rates.
Countries attempting to stem population decline have generally had poor results, case in point, Japan, Korea and most other developed economies.
Japan and Korean attempts at increasing birthrate completely ignore the problem that is their horrible work culture that prevents people from having actual lives
I was more thinking that they decrease populations, throwing the estimate off in the other direction.
The UN estimate has always been too large. Its methodology is flawed.
More realistic estimate would be that the population will start to fall sooner. Around 2040-2060.
Seeing as this will start decreasing in 2080s, I will live through the peak years... at best Iwill be one of the decrease contributors. Yay?
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