I hope Republicans get absolutely crushed to the point that it becomes clear catering to the extremists and conspiracy theorists is not tenable. Then they have 4 years to try to rebuild from the ashes and try to present a reasonable platform instead of something insane.
I prefer the Republicans offer a reasonable alternative so that Democrats can actually be held accountable. Currently Democrats can engage in insider trading, pass laws that help their stocks, continue to give weapons to war criminals, and you still have to come out in droves to vote for them or the country becomes a Dictatorship.
If Republicans are forced to rebuild and offer someone that isn't going to run the country and everyone's freedoms into the ground, (or better yet completely crash and burn allowing an actual leftist party the chance to be the 2nd party) then Democrats can actually be held accountable if they pass shitty laws.
You want the Republican party to compete with the Democrats by attempting to make things fairer, less corrupt and more honourable than the Democrats?! It's like expecting Biden to be the youthful candidate, Trump to be the honest and rational candidate and Bernie to be the corporate shill all in one.
The rest of my post was saying I want Republicans to not be a dumpster fire that is going down the fascism hole. They don't need to be "fairer, less corrupt and more honourable than the Democrats," they just need to not be taking away established human rights when they're in power so that not voting for Democrats if they aren't behaving can be a reasonable option.
I like how you disengenuiously phrase everything. Oh Lordy, I wish the Republicans could force those filthy Democrats to stop their cheating ways, or I swear I'll faint!!
Meanwhile, there are already Democrats who ARE proposing fixes to your little list. LOL, we don't need Republicans to hold Democrats accountable, we need them to vote with the Democrats trying to fix the problems. But good luck with that
Yep. If you're a progressive and you want an actual progressive party, the only way to do that in this current (two party) system, is to shift the Overton Window to the left such that the current Democratic party becomes the center-right party (replacing the far right Republicans entirely), and said new progressive party, the left.
That means voting Democrat (including down ballot, which would be especially important in shifting local politics to the left) for now while continuing to do everything in our power to promote and support progressive candidates.
And this would take several election cycles. The collective ADHD of social media addled brains of Gen Z voters is another massive hurdle. They haven't seemed to grasp yet just how slow things can move in politics (which by itself isn't inherently good or bad).
How do you get them to stay engaged for 12+ years when it may seem like nothing is getting better?
According to Insider, Sens. Ossoff and Sen. Kelly were two of only 10 sitting members of Congress last Congress to place their portfolios in blind trusts.
Oh no! I criticised something only most Democrats are doing! That must mean I support Republicans!
At no point did I say Republicans need to hold Democrats responsible. What I said was I want Republicans to present an at least somewhat reasonable alternative so that the voters can hold Democrats responsible without risking the safety of marginalized people.
If 10 Democrats are trying to stop this that's great, the problem is you still have to vote for the 100 other Democrats that are gleefully taking part because the alternative is literal fascism. Democrats don't have to actually try to improve people's lives because what are you going to do, not vote and let the Republicans win?
I would not have expected "I wish there were 2 reasonable candidates to choose from" would be a controversial take, but I suppose American "Politics" is more tribalism than anything else.
What I said was I would prefer if Republicans were a somewhat reasonable option, that wouldn't be taking away people's rights or diving straight in fascism, so that voters could hold Democrats responsible.
Basically, wouldn't it be nice if you didn't have to vote for a Democrat if they didn't follow through on their promises or engaged in unethical behaviour?
Short answer: yes. I'd prefer we move away from a two party system and embrace something like ranked choice or STAR to promote more voices at the table, but that takes away power from both Dems and Repubs, so it ain't happening anytime soon.
That sounds great too. The person I was originally replying to said they hoped Trump lost and continued to be the candidate for the next couple of elections, which would not lead to a more stable or functioning democracy. (No third party has a chance when there's a risk of actual fascism if the Republican's win.)
I think the party would destroy itself long before they become introspective enough to straighten their shit out.
This isn't just a political party we're talking about, it's essentially a cult. Maybe not every Trump voter is in that deep, but enough are to cause a serious schism in the party.
I just hope that this time, the allegedly anti-Trump Republicans have the balls (or lady-nuts) to actually say/do something rather than falling in line and kissing the ring.
Unless we're still talking Russian kompromat... If that's the case, whatever they have on these people must be truly horrific.
I guess you didn't see the article about her statement regarding Israel/Palestine.
Already got the "totally a progressive who wouldn't vote for Biden because they just learned Palestine exists" concern trolls to make sure everyone knows that she lost their support already 🙄
I'm just a normal human being that uses words in normal human context and not like a demented psychopath that needs to define each meaning for every possible dumbass who thinks they are smart.
No I don't think they are particularly left, but they are left in relation to the other party and they are considered to be the left for that very reason (at least!).
Again, you are embarrassing yourself with comments like that. You are like a little child that listens to a teacher and tries to find bizarre situations in which what the teacher says is not true. Its pointless and dumb.
A rather large majority says the democratic party is the left. That is why I used the word, not because I wanted to talk what they are and what they aren't. That is how normal people usually do.
Normal people don't nitpick about every single word and try to deconstruct them to find faults when the topic is something else.
Which people say they are left? I'm not nitpicking, you are fundamentally wrong about using the term. It wasn't a throwaway word, it is essential to the meaning of your post, and this incorrect. You can't expect to throw disparaging remarks around when your understanding is not right.
I am 100% not wrong about using the term. Words don't mean whatever you decide they mean.
Which people say they are the left? Almost everyone. If you do a poll and ask all Americans, no, everyone in the world which is the left party and which is the right, what do you think you will get?
Maybe you think numbers don't matter? They do where words and meanings come into place.
Maybe you think her policies are not sufficiently to the left for your taste? Though.
What disparaging remarks? That the left - meaning the democratic party with all it's progressive and less progressive individuals together with other leftist parties are their own worst enemy?
What a bloody contraversial statement! Nobody in history every said something so disparaging. Let's attack this guy on all angles for this crazy statement.
This is truly amazing and at mindnumbingly boring at the same time.
I couldn't say it better myself!
Some trolls will go out of their way to find a reason for insults over a single insignificant word. Wether that reason is linguistic or ideological or just pointless in every way.
You could say the most benign banal thing and they will jump on it like crazy people. It's normal, it's Internet, but it's also sad.
Looks at Clinton.... Looks at JFK.... Looks at Jimmy Carter...
What the fuck are you even talking about? I can think of a lot of small mistakes that could have ruined any of the examples I provided but they are all LEFT heroes.
I'm sorry you are offended and agitated for some reason, I have no idea why. There is even a saying that the far right is the leftist second biggest enemy, right after another leftist they only share 95% of opinions with.
They asked you a valid question - what are some significant examples of what you are talking about? They gave examples of the opposite of what youre saying being true.