Young Women Are Fleeing Organized Religion. This Was Predictable.
Young Women Are Fleeing Organized Religion. This Was Predictable.
They’re increasingly identifying as feminist at the same time that some denominations are drawing conservative lines in the sand.
Whoa, that’s so weird. The social structures intentionally and consistently attempting to remove autonomy from a subset of the population are unpopular among that same subset. I can’t understand why. It’s like, kitchen anti-abortion nuclear family, amiright fellas?
Do you mean subset?
Yes, I did mean subset. Weird typo for me, thank you for pointing it out.
“The crackdown on women [...] also stems from growing anxieties many evangelicals have about what they see as swiftly changing norms around gender and sexuality in America.”
"Swiftly changing"? This stuff changed in the 70's!
But apparently they're working on changing it back to 19th century normal.
And let's not imagine that's where they plan to stop. Give them free reign and they WILL start burning witches again.
I think they're talking about trans people, not women's rights.
But when they attack trans people for some reason cis women keep losing rights and safety
This is why the GOP and conservatives are so bat shit off the walls lately. Their belief system is on deaths door and they know that if they don't take power now, they'll never regain it.
Yeah that's part of it. People are leaving Christianity, and it's disproportionately the rational ones. So who does that leave behind?
The U.S. isn't the only nation that has Christians. I'd argue that the Christians in modern western civilization are actually just Christians in name only compared to that of Christians in non-western nations.
However, I feel that it is democracy that is the killer of conservatism of any sort.
"Please, stay and don't talk or be in leadership!!! Seriously, we need to tell you what to do with your body!!! Where are you going?"
I never let my daughter get started.
You start by thanking god for supper and end up losing the right of your vagina.
I never let my daughter [insert any action here].
You could make a religion out of this.
Edit: This is a reference to a joke.
Iʼd flee too if church leaders were matchmaking me in order to enforce racial divides. Mormon church example, emphasis mine:
“We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally, and of somewhat the same economic and social and educational background (some of those are not an absolute necessity, but preferred), and above all, the same religious background, without question” (“Marriage and Divorce,” in 1976 Devotional Speeches of the Year [Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 1977], p. 144).
Source: Aaronic Priesthood Manual 3. (1995). churchofjesuschrist.org. Chapter 31 “Choosing an Eternal Companion”. Accessed 2024-06-13.
Context: This manual is what is currently taught to young men beginning at age 12.
Religion is always organized. That's the definition of it. It's organized belief. Take away the organization (= rules on how to believe / act), and you're left with personal beliefs.
Fuck all religions :)
I don't know. I've been to some pretty disorganized Hellenistic pagan events. Damn good time, though.
"Ah shit, when was the sermon supposed to start? Let's see, where did I put my notes...does anyone have a bible or something I can borrow?"
maybe we need a new religion that thinks corporations are demons from hell and need to be destroyed rather than one that treats women like property.
Will never happen, because religions serve to help keep the people in power where they are.
Mixing religion and politics has made both worse. When your values and your religion are mismatched one will have to give. In this case it's religion. While I know some churches know this most do not. Especially those who are more politically connected. You made your bed now watch women leave it
You literally CAN'T make religion worse.
Good. The sooner the poison of religion is relegated to the dustbin of history, the better. The Abrahamic faiths are just the worst of the bunch.
This is the real reason for this push toward dictatorship. These religions know they are dying out and wish to push the world back into darkness. Its only in darkness and ignorance that they can flourish.
I don't think it's as simple as there being one sole reason, but it's definitely one of the reasons.
Don't discount the idea that their fundamental drives/perversions are not the primary reason for nearly all of their actions. At the heart of these broken people is the idea that they can control women so they are free to rape them at will. They wont put it that way but lets face it that is what they want.
I'm a middle aged white male. As a result when meeting these petty little people I often hear comments and opinions that make it clear they have little respect for women or anyone who does't share their pigmentation and religion. I've met some truly horrible people. Not that they are the majority but it seems the more wealthy they are the more unhinged they are. All I have to do keep silent to hear it. I've heard these trash ideas many times from sad little garbage humans who think women taking a pill or controlling their own bodies is the reason why they can't 'keep' a woman. The idea that they are wrong never enters their mind. They blame everyone but themselves for their troubles. Nothing would please them more than to be able to make a woman a owned object and to be sure its their final goal. Along with anyone who they don't agree with or approve of.
Can we stop using "religion" to refer to only Christianity? Please?
The stats they're using refer to the increase in women identifying as "unaffiliated" regardless of starting religion. However, the examples and stories they use refer to Christianity specifically.
So the title is right, just the article as a whole is just weirdly focused on Christianity
The stats they're using refer to the increase in women identifying as "unaffiliated" regardless of starting religion.
True enough, but that's almost completely because they've leaving Christianity. Upon reading the title I thought religion as a whole was in decline in the US, which isn't very inaccurate but Christianity is clearly an outlier here.
You got one that humanity wouldn't be better off without?
People consider Catholicism, protestantism, and Mormonism as separate religions. But also that's the vast majority of religion in the US, so.
That makes more sense yeah.
No, it's very important that we pretend indigenous and racial minority religions don't exist for uhhhhhhhh totally not white supremacist reasons
Not fast enough imo
It's mostly white women, and it's only because conservative politics of the church are beginning to effect them so I have no sympathy.
