Why do you find yourself opting for btop or htop instead of top? What advantages do these tools offer that make them superior to top in your opinion?
top has served me well, so I'm unsure why I would want to burden my system with the addition of htop or btop. With top, if you wish to terminate a process, simply press 'k' and send the signal; it's that simple. If you'd like to identify the origin of a process, just include the command column.
I often find myself intrigued when encountering comments on posts expressing love for htop/btop. To me, it appears unnecessary or BLOATED!! Please do share your perspectives and help broaden my Linux knowledgebase.
htop because it's much more user-friendly than top, has the feature of sending all kinds of signals to processes, has mouse support and it generally looks good. Not a fan of btop at all. Idk how to use it and I don't like the UI. I personally love the idea of no bloat. It's just such a nice little philosophy. Sometimes I even want to use a CLI only computer tbh. Though htop weights only a few kilobytes and it has features top doesn't have so I don't consider it bloat. I had it on my server as well
To be honest, I really prefer btop's sleek UI. It looks so modern and advanced. But with all its beauty and abundance of information, it can be overwhelming at times or in another words, bloattt. That's why I personally lean towards htop's text-based interface, which I find highly customizable to my preferences. Plus, htop offers more features and conveniences than top, making it my go-to choice for now.
htop on our vms and clusters, because it's in all the repos, it's fast, it's configurable by a deployable config file, it's very clearly laid out and it does everything I need. I definitely would not call it bloated in any way.
My config includes network and i/o traffic stats, and details cpu load type - this in particular makes iowait very easy to spot when finding out why something's racking up big sysloads. Plus, it looks very impressive on a machine with 80 cores...
My brain can't parse top's output very well for anything other than looking for the highest cpu process.
But - ymmv. Everyone has a preference and we have lots of choice, it doesn't make one thing better or worse than another.
I like htop because it has nice CPU graphs and a good tui for navigating. Top is a bit too obtuse for a new user, especially since CPU time is measured per core and not per the entire CPU. Plus I never figured out how turbo boost plays a roll in those percents.
I haven’t gotten around to messing with btop, but it seems like more of what I like.
Also fuck the “muh bloat” people. I have an i9 and 32 gigs of ram. I don’t care that a monitor util takes 1/10th of a second longer to launch and uses 1MB more of ram.
Also fuck the “muh bloat” people. I have an i9 and 32 gigs of ram. I don’t care that a monitor util takes 1/10th of a second longer to launch and uses 1MB more of ram.
Maybe you only use those tools on your desktop but on a cloud server with only 1-2GB of RAM you really don't want your monitoring to take up some significant percentage of that. Especially when you are debugging things like OOM conditions already.
Why are you using top instead of ps if you're worried about memory?
Containerise it, and you can debug locally
It's not what the person you're replying to is talking about. You're using a slightly better tool for a specific job, they're talking about people who won't use htop/btop on their own machine because BLOAT.
i still need to learn how to use top well though, just in case that's the only option some day. if all else fails i just resort back to ps and (p)kill.
I find htop to be far more legible, the white blocks of top aren't for me. btop just seems a bit too much for my use, so I never caught on to it. I do believe btop to be better however, since the point of these programs is to see detailed statistics about your system and running programs. btop shoves a lot more information into your face. I really only open htop to find the PID of an app or to find what I need to debloat when I'm in a 1337 h4ck3rm4n mood and trying to make the most minimal system possible.
I could, but like I said in my other reply btop is just a bit overkill for my use-case. Also "fixes" like that just seem a bit hacky, and as if I'm trying too hard to use a program. I shouldn't have to disguise one program as another to be able to use it. That just spells it out plain and clear to me, "I don't need this program".
I love btop because of how fancy the graphs look and it also shows disk utilisation. I use it pretty much wherever I can. When I want something more simple I use bottom btm --basic and alias it to top
I like btop because of its ease of use and modern gui. When I open top or even htop it feels like I'm using something designed for a dumb terminal from the 70s. When opening btop it feels like something designed for how computers are used now and not 50 years ago.
Also to my knowledge It's the only full system monitor to include GPU monitoring (while other GPU monitors exist they usually only monitor the GPU and not the whole system)
Agree with you on the beauty of btop, but sometimes less is more and that's why I think it's bloated. When working with the terminal, text-based programs work best on it so htop is much more to my liking due to its minimalist interface.
Because it exists in nearly every environment I might need to check usage. From my desktop, through laptops, lab machines, routers, embedded systems, IoT to cloud, I don't have to keep the muscle memory of more than one app.
Htop what I use cause it's what I've been using. Only really use it to see what process is taking the most CPU usage or RAM usage. System monitors in general though are mostly useless imo
I am a chad htop enjoyer, I find btop and other alternatives too much on the eyes for me personally and HTOP has enough info for me to take a look at in terms of system resources.
Either that or I just use the regular gnome GUI system monitor lol
I use both htop and btop—depending on the mood. htop is less prettier, but more reliable. But sometimes I want pretty and I go with btop. top is where I draw the line. It's too nerdy for me.
I use btop in tmux on my server but on the desktop I run htop in a dropdown terminal when I need to keep am eye on things
As to the why it depends on the use case but on my server I can monitor all disks and networks utilization by interface in addition to processor and memory usage with btop.
Htop is easier to parse due to the colors but I'll still use top if on a remove server to check something in work.
They’re different tools with different purposes. What you’re asking is like “which do you prefer, hand driver, box/open end wrench, socket wrench or impact driver?”
Ps and top can be used to very easily figure out and address when processes are screwing up. Atop, htop and btop can be used to directly view stuff hardware reports in real-ish time so you can figure out if a process has stopped being “stepped” across cores, a disk has stopped responding in time or when there’s a lot of network traffic.
As utilities they operate within fundamentally different scopes, to the point with btop of being extremely zoomed out macro pictures that are helpful when taking in abstract information about a system.