Judge in Trump civil fraud case was sent envelope with white powder, source says
Judge in Trump civil fraud case was sent envelope with white powder, source says
The envelope never made it to Judge Arthur Engoron, but caused an emergency response at the courthouse.
The envelope never made it to Judge Arthur Engoron, but caused an emergency response at the courthouse.
Judge Arthur Engoron, who handed down a $355 million ruling against former President Donald Trump in his civil fraud trial, was sent an envelope containing white powder on Wednesday, causing an emergency response at his New York City courthouse, a source with direct knowledge of the incident confirmed to NBC News.
The judge and his staff were not exposed to the substance — his mail is pre-screened on a daily basis and was intercepted before it reached him, the source said. A court officer opened the letter and powder fell out, according to the New York Police Department, exposing the officer and another court employee to the substance, the source said. The New York City Fire Department said the two refused any medical treatment. The threatening letter was first reported by ABC News.
The threat is far from the first against the judge. Police on Long Island responded to a bomb threat at his home last month, hours before closing arguments in the Trump trial were scheduled to begin.
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Someone is about to meet the Postal Inspection Service and have a very bad time. You do not fuck with the mail. They will find your ass.
Unless you're Louis DeJoy, then you can fuck with the mail all you want with impunity.
Oh yeah I forgot about that story arc.
I didn't realize he's still post master general. There's a Time article claiming he's been doing a lot of beneficial stuff now. But I honestly have no idea how biased it is toward any agenda.
He saw which way the wind was blowing, and decided to use his powers for good. I don't think he's stupid, just unscrupulous.
Yeah, I got the impression that he's just opportunistic.
Wow interesting article, really paints him in a different light
Just an FYI, Biden could remove him anytime he wants. He won't. He has appointed enough postal governors to get a new Postmaster General.
I feel like it would be pretty easy to untraceably send a single letter. False return address, address written slowly with your alternate hand (or printed), dropped in an unmonitored street mailbox a few hours away from your home…how would USPIS find such a person?
In that situation, they wouldn’t find them.
But in many other situations, criminals do dumb things like writing their return address.
Printed? Your printer leaves a unique pattern on all its documents. Oooh
Dropped in a mailbox, oooh the neighbour across the road has a ring doorbell
Didn't turn off your phone? Ooooh
Let's be honest though these people probably took a photo of them posting it, and now it's on up on twitter.
My money would be on Truth Social or a QAnon/Maga facebook group.
People underestimate how prevalent camera doorbells are now thanks to ring. At my girlfriends place about 75 percent of her neighbors on the block have em. Just installed a eufy for my mom a little while ago and she's super untech savvy. Her apt building also has about 60 percent door cams.
Super helpful tool with tracking bad guys...but also it's just so creepy and dystopian.
I was trying to see who a stray dog belonged to in my own neighborhood, and pushing the button and talking into these little lenses on every door was so weird.
Neighborhoods are now enclaves full of suspicious hermits...
Municipal or private CCTV by the mailbox? In the UK at least it's quite common.
Letter boxes don’t stamp the specific location in most places. And even if they did, you could just use an outgoing box at a large community, or someone’s house mailbox.
No, but the CCTV installation surely will.
What CCTV? lol.
The ones I mentioned pepper almost every London junction. In metro areas, there's also loads of private installations that can be looked at to help identify and track individuals.
Well, maybe in the police-state UK. But we don’t have that over here. And even if we did, as I said, they couldn’t narrow down the exact box in the postal code and if it was in a heavy traffic are there could be thousands of people dropping mail off daily.
where you live? 1980s?
Not in the UK.
There aren’t cameras watching every nook and cranny of my major metropolitan city. That’s not reality.
Do you live in a major US city? Police 1000% frequently sepenia businesses for CCTV footage, and are increasingly getting standing access to existing cameras. And to a lesser degree I believe they are installing their own cameras, but I have hit my limit of finding sources for someone else's comment while taking a shit.
Mail drop boxes are not in nooks or crannies. In a city you can bet every intersection and retail space has you on video. Even if you found the truman show magic spot where the cameras don't see, you still need to pass by them to travel there. Further, All corporate retail and most of the rest are using geofencing to track and advertise. If you enter their fence and are not identifiable you are now part of less than 1% of people who maintain minimal privacy. Which makes you stand out for anyone looking for someone nefarious. we are to the point that it is in the courts now to decide if a burner phone itself substantiates intent to commit a crime even. Some idiocracy unscannable kinda shit.
UK's one of the most surveilled countries on earth tho innit?
I just like the idea that somebody might be stupid enough to put their real return address on the envelope, and your suggestion is the first time that it's occurred to them that they might not need to do that.
Agent Jack Danger is on the case.
It’s pronounced Donger.
I mean, for now, all of these systems are crumbling beneath our feet.
USPS was extremely reliable. Now I hear from folks "Oh I sent it via mail, no wonder you never got it".
This includes the teeth that these systems have
The mail is as reliable as ever. What are you talking about?
He is talking out of his ass. They made the mail more reliable, by removing stupid routes and some unnecessary air mail. It now takes an extra day to send stuff cross country, according to the mailing guidelines... but the previous service guidelines were off by a half or full day anyway for that distance.