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Apollo dev released a youtube app for Vision Pro

christianselig.com Introducing Juno for Apple Vision Pro

YouTube is probably one of the parts of the internet I consume the most, so I was more than a little sad when YouTube announced that they don’t have plans to build a visionOS app, and disabled the option to load the iPad app. This leaves you with Safari, and the website is okay, but definitely doesn...

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I almost forgot Apollo… 🥹
- Voyager is such a great replacement ☺️ but yea, was a very sad end for Apollo.
  
  what happened to apollo?
  
  It’s not over, I’m still using Apollo sideloaded. It’s actually fantastic because no ads and tracking.
- I’m currently reading your comment on Voyager, which is the Lemmy version of Apollo lol.
  
  Idk, the lackluster support for gifs has kinda killed it for me. I’m finding Avelon to be a much closer replacement
That's pretty quick.
- It wasn't publicly spoken about much from what I understand, but headsets were sent to some select developers within a month or so of the announcement. A buddy of mine was working at a company that is basically totally AR/MR focused and they had around 3 units for development purposes. Disney had to have had them even sooner because they were demoing Disney stuff right at the announcement.
  
  I wouldn't be totally surprised if the Apollo guy was one of them. He's an ex Apple employee and Apollo got called out or at least shown in Apple keynotes multiple times before it shut down.
  
  Under the "Can I give feedback?" section, he mentions that he only used the simulator in Xcode for developing this. So sadly he wasn't one of the few people with a development unit. That makes how quickly he's done this even more impressive!
  
  I follow Christian on mastodon. He didn’t have one when he made the app, he was using the emulator.
  
  He is currently on a Canada -> USA road trip to get a vision pro
  
  From the article (right under "Can I give feedback"):
  
  I’ve only been able to develop this in the simulator, which obviously has its limitations, so once I get my hands on a device this Friday I’ll probably have a lot of thoughts on things I want to improve as well.
Please help me understand the point of the Vision Pro? It’s not VR. And every app and screenshot I’m seeing looks like “let’s throw this window, that you could normally have on your desktop or TV in your field of view”. Are there any mechanisms to have it interact with your surrounding in an AR type manner? Or does it just overlay flat windows on top of what you’re seeing?
- Afaik there are only a handful of actual AR stuff right now:
  
  Application windows stay anchored to your environment until you reset them. If you put them on top of your desk, it'll stay there even if you move to your kitchen.
  
  When you look at your mac, it'll sometimes pop a button to allow you to initiate virtual display to your mac.
  
  When you look down to your bluetooth keyboard, it'll show whatever you type in a floating box complete with suggestions.
  
  Maybe there are more I'm not aware of.
  
  There we go! That’s some stuff that I was missing. Thank you!
- I want it for the virtual monitor aspect. Especially since I have adhd, I think this would possibly cut down on distractions.
  
  Even that seems kinda half ass in this version. Like you think you'd be able to drag a window from your monitor outside the monitor. Instead, it just... Shows your monitor again.
  
  I am not the target market for this device though. I'm not really sure who is, beyond the diehard apple people.
  
  I do find it funny how quickly apple pr moves from the "when they do something they do it right" to "well this is first gen so we expect it has some flaws".
- It’s AR and VR in whatever mix you want it to be. The little spinny dial at the top controls how much of the real world you see vs how much of a virtual environment you see. The bottom end is full AR, the top end is full VR.
- Preparation for the future. If you want an actual VR device get an oculus
  
  That’s it, I don’t. I want AR, but just throwing up a random flat window in my field of view without interacting with the environment is not AR. It’s just your monitor with a dynamic background.
Does it block ads? It doesn’t, I don’t think Google would like that, but if you have YouTube Premium you won’t see ads, just like the website. Honestly, YouTube Premium is like one of the most essential subscriptions for me, it’s so handy to never worry about ads and it’s pretty cool in that it also supports the creators substantially more than if you watched ads. So I dunno, if you can afford an expensive Apple Vision Pro, I’d really consider treating yourself to YouTube Premium!

O no,… they took him.
- Oh grow up.
  
  YouTube sucks balls, but people still want it and the dev, who made Apollo and is one of the best app makers out there, did what they could to make YT available quickly.
  
  So now you’re shitting on him personally because he didn’t fulfill your crusade. Get a life or learn to program and get off your ass and do it yourself.
  
  Jesus, people.
  
  You need to simmer down.
  
  Your point is correct, but it's fair to comment on the fact a previously vocal free software/no subscription dev is following a different model with this project. He was quite vocal about the reddit API changes, and many folks heard of him during that situation.
  
  Please calm your tits and take a free trial.
  
  Spaghetti monster, people.
- It's not like he can make an ad free version of YouTube and release it on Vision, it would probably get instantly taken down.
- Premium is pretty great, to be honest.
  
  Yeah, I have it with ReVanced and it's pretty awesome
- Google’s TOS forbids any apps that block ads. Enhancer for YouTube recently removed it as well (although it has to be on the Play store).
  
  Get yourself a DNS blocker.
  
  DNS ad blockers don’t work on YouTube :c
I didn't even know YT clients were a thing yet (aside usual alternatives ofc 🏴‍☠️).
- It's not* really a client. The app uses embeds for playback and the regular YouTube website (with css modifications ontop) for browsing.
  
  I thought this was disallowed by the app store.
Christian always makes cool stuff happen! Great work buddy :)
Looks cool. I think a couple of my friends could've like it.
Apple is struggling w/ this concept ngl
does google allow stuff like this? i would expect they will try to disable it or simple c&d pretty quickly.
- Since a lot of people will come to the comments without reading the article itself:
  
  It is embedding the Youtube video, like a lot of websites and apps do - if you ever watched a youtube video outside of youtube.com or official apps, odds are it is using the same API as that app.
  
  It still shows ads and uses the Youtube website directly for certain parts, but with some custom CSS and JS akin to how browser extensions would work.
- You didn’t read the article, did you ?
  
  Course not, what am i, a boomer? :) (Luckily someone found it in their hearts to tldr it for me though.)
- It’s ok in this case, since it is only an alternative web view and videos are loaded, like on the website, with ads, except, if you have premium, of course. For ad block, I guess, you have to use an extension for safari, which I don’t know if they are supported on vision safari.
  
  great question. some bloke on social media claims it will support safari extensions https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1aeen10/safari_extensions/

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