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Please no. Some of us live here and like the US as it is. I would appreciate a change of state government, though.
There's not an ice cube's chance in hell that Texas successfully secedes. Do you remember what happened the last time some States tried to secede? The Union is about eleventy billion times more powerful than it was in 1865.
Believe me, I’m aware. Not gonna stop the idiots from trying.
You know all those migrants entering your state, fleeing the shit happening back home? Follow their example, pack up and move somewhere else. Texas being shit is nothing new and that won't change.
Man, do you think I’d still be here if I had any choice? I’m broke as hell, and the situation in this state isn’t making it any better.
Those "illegal migrants" are broke as hell too. What's stopping you that is not stopping them? You likely have an education, a profession, heck even just citizenship and US "work experience" compared to them. And the ability to take on more credit and communicate in English. Buy the cheapest bus or plane ticket out of there and don't stop until you get north west or east.
Stop using immigrants' suffering as an excuse to do nothing about people's suffering in Texas. The correct response is not "just move", it is "how can I help you organize and stand up to your government."
I'd remind you that many of the people suffering and stuck in Texas are immigrats and their families.
The fact that I have a support system here that prevents me from dying. If I just pack up and move, I'm left with no home, no friends or family to rely on, no vehicle(which is the biggest reason I can't move to begin with), and no idea where to even begin the process of getting my life back together.
This is a really weird point to argue about.
It's not an argument.
It's not an argument, it's an example of other people that are in an even worse situation and it doesn't stop them, it just shows that people saying "Oh shit's so bad in Texas even for people like me who were born in the USA, I hate it :(" aren't that uncomfortable after allz they just want to complain.
We can't win it from the idiots if we all pack up and leave. I'm in this battleground state and I'm standing my ground. When Trump gets the nomination I'm going to do my best to remind the Republicans that I know that Trump has said he wants to become a dictator and uses the same blood purity bullshit racist rhetoric in speeches just like Hitler. I'm going to make them face the uncomfortable truth that a vote for Trump today is akin to a vote for Hitler in 1930s Germany.
I mean the parallels are uncanny at this point. The only thing missing is Trump actually getting jail time for attempting to overthrow democracy. At least Germany had the balls to put Hitler away before his rise to power.
The craziest part of the Republican party now is that they actually like Russia. What happened to them? Ruskie commies were the supposed mortal enemy of them until the fall of the USSR. now they want to help them? We gave the afghans a ridiculous amount of weapons and training to fight Russia and they used that later in terror attacks against us, but now we have the perfect opportunity to put the military industrial complex to use without putting Americans in the line of fire with a people that are highly unlikely to do the same as al queda. Oh but suddenly now its just too expensive to fund? Really this point needs to be driven home to all the military humping douches that would gladly suck the dick of anyone that has served in the military. Really what happened? We're really living in a time where the party that supports the military industrial complex more is the Democrats?
Honestly we need a new government. We have the technology to implement direct democracy. Our constitution and government are horribly outdated and the checks in the system are being pushed to the limit in all branches of federal government. Our state is failing and if we continue the ultra rich .01% billionaire class will soon rule our nation openly with impunity. We desperately need a new progressive movement.
Ruskie commies were the supposed mortal enemy of them
As a Ruskie commie, I gotta say, the fact there exist people who praise Russia in the USA is absolutely fucking insane, you should really put them all into mental asylum because whatever is going in their head must be complete bonkers. I don't mean that everyone should turn russophobe, of course, but modern Russia is objectively a complete shithole. It is a miracle that it's still standing as a major global power, despite the government actions and post-soviet cultural heritage.
I don't think most regular Republican voters praise Russia, but many Republican politicians are anti-Ukraine aid, and support policies that could help Russia. I think these politicians are somehow influenced by Russia (money? kompromat? just simply knowing Russia has effective disinformation and conspiracy theory networks?).
many Republican politicians are anti-Ukraine aid, and support policies that could help Russia
The anti-Ukraine-aid(as in, not giving Ukraine military aid) I can understand. Support policies to help Russia, not so much. But what I'm talking about is I frequently see these nutjobs on Twitter who praise Putin and Russia, while piling up on Zelensky and Ukrainian media resources. Usually those seem to be some kind of religious fundamentalists who think that Russia is some kind of bastion of christian and traditional values. There are even a few who actually moved to Russia and are now used as token "Americans who fled the evil woke culture" on the Russian TV and other media. What these guys are failing to realize, though, is that what they perceive as "christian and traditional values", are actually remnants of criminal/jail culture of the 90s where prisoners would commit homosexual acts against each other to establish hierarchy, and, outside of it, excommunicate or even murder their friends, who came out as gay, out of irrational fear of same acts being done to them. The Russian Christianity... it's more of a "Pacification & Penitence Inc." rather than strict adherence to any particular set of of biblical doctrines. And for Putin... if there was a contest for "inventor of the most non-binding and legally undefined terms and half-measures" he'd definitely be the winner - ffs, he hasn't even properly declared a war to Ukraine, what "strong leader" are they talking about.
What's particularly cringe and really pisses me off though is when those guys try to flip Ukrainian patriotic symbolism, e.g. chanting "Slava Russia", wearing Russian flags, or making fun of Ukrainian casualties - in Russian culture, wearing a literal flag as a cape is disrespectful, "Slava X! [to] Y slava!" originates from a nazi chant and doesn't really make sense in Russian language, while the last one is just plain distasteful.
Hmm, I suspect the pro-Russian Christian people you're seeing online are extremely-online people with mental issues, or are a part of Russia's disinfo campaigns, or both. Most of my family are evangelical Christians, and are not pro-Russia (but, are pretty crazy about other things). Many of my friends and associates are either Protestant or Catholic, and are not pro-Russia. I've never seen what you talk about online (I don't use Xitter, or TikTok), but have heard about some extremely far-right "Catholics" switching to "orthodox," and still, those people are an extremely-online, extremely small group of people, AFAIK.
IDK WTF you're talking about with the prison rape shit, but it sounds very conspiratorial and homophobic. I could be ignorant, because I'm not too familiar with Russia's domestic history, but what you are saying sounds pretty outlandish. However, I agree that religion is often used as a tool of control by the state. I.e. "religion is the opium of the masses."
Being against lethal aid to Ukraine could be about austerity, isolationist, or pacifist principles, but the politicians blocking the aid have no principles, and often advocate for violence elsewhere.
I'm sure there are plenty of good people in Russia. There are plenty of terrible governments around the globe with good people living under them. But the Russian state government really is terrible.
When I said that really I was mocking the Republicans. As I was growing up and even today if you even mention communism or socialism they have the same reaction. It's why I really don't understand them suddenly being against giving aid to Ukraine to fight Russia. We can do it in Afghanistan and it's OK even though later al queda turn against the US, but now that we can openly fund a war against Russia where that isn't an issue suddenly now they don't want to? I don't get it.
We can't win it from the idiots if we all pack up and leave.At this point I don't believe the idiots can be convinced that their choice is bad unless it blows up in their face because everyone else left.
I don't know if you've ever met a family where one kid got major drug/mental health issues that landed then in the street? After so many times trying to save them, I've never known a family that didn't decide to just stop and wait on their child to be ready to save themself, otherwise it's the rest of the family that would rip itself apart.
What I'm saying is, your State is full of people with mental health issues and it's spreading and it might be a good idea to move out before they rip you apart. Hell, they're already doing it to migrants, if you think they won't come after "the commies that vote for the Democrats" at some point then you're much more optimistic than I am.
I understand but I disagree. Martin Luther King was starting to try to turn those same idiots before he died. I believe he really could have. There are other charismatic leaders that could today.
The billionaire class knows that as soon as people stop fighting left vs right and instead unite and organize bottom vs top that they're completely outnumbered. Yes convincing the temporarily embarrassed millionaires in the US does seem impossible. But I won't give up hope.
The previous presidential election was closer than ever in Texas. Sure the voting districts are gerrymandered to hell. But if people would just register and vote I believe the democrats could turn this state at both federal and state level regardless of how districts are drawn. Ted Cruz is up for election and I think this time he may also really lose. But if everyone sane just packed up and left then the idiots really do win.
Please go look up independent polls of single issue opinions in Texas, then go look up what voter suppression is.
Do you realize how many people you are telling to "just leave" regardless of means or ability to do so. It is not a viable "solution". There are activists groups all over the state that are making changes, but they need help, not derision.
"But why don't the slaves just move?"
This is the sickest, most inhuman mindset. You don't care about immigrants. You don't care about the people in Texas. And you sure as hell don't care about what is happening to immigrants in Texas.
The fuck you're rambling about??? OP is a fucking slave now?
If I had to guess, I'd say that they were talking about how it's barely affordable just to live in some places (wage slaves), and moving yourself and your family to an entire other state takes substantial time and money. Not to mention the emotional difficulty of leaving everyone and everything you know.
The same argument was made about recently freed slaves who had nowhere to go afterward, and how they should just move if they don't like the continuing slavery-like treatment where they lived.
It does seem very cold and privileged from that perspective to tell someone to just up and leave, but this specific comparison seems unnecessarily impassioned
Nailed it on every front.
I thank you for taking the time to make a good faith untangling of my admittedly heated comment. I admire the patience you have to fully explain what I could not be bothered to articulate.
All good friend... it's too easy to get caught up in the emotions of charged politics