Donald Trump's chances of winning election slump after RNC speech
Donald Trump's chances of winning election slump after RNC speech
The odds of Donald Trump securing victory over Joe Biden in November have lengthened from 2/5 on Thursday to 8/15 on Friday, according to William Hill.
I have no idea about William Hill. But the odds they describe sound about right to me, and the Nate Silver thing and the summary of Trump’s speech sound informative
inb4 BIDEN COPIUM HAHAHA etc and etc
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You think everyone is just tired of this shit? Both these dudes are older than my grandfather when he died. I am fucking tired boss. It shouldn't be this crazy just to get sensible candidates who are actual human beings. It really shouldn't.
If only the well wasn’t poisoned with REPLACE BIDEN NOW OR WORLD WILL END ALSO KAMALA SUCKS bullshit, 5-10 times every hour, some of it coming yesterday still with fresh Cyrillic in its video description, we could have an adult conversation about what a good Democratic strategy would be, so that the end of the world doesn’t get elected
God yes I've seen so much of this lately.
It’s like a fuckin typhoon
Trump wouldn’t be the end of the world. Don’t be so dramatic. He would be the end of The United States, and at most the human race. But there’s basically no chance he could destroy all life on earth.
Pedant says what?
The well is poisoned due to capitalistic interests even though we all like to think it’s incompetence.
Yeah that's an issue. But it's also actually a fucking thing.
REPLACE BIDEN NOW OR WORLD WILL END
an adult conversation about what a good Democratic strategy would be
Do you understand how meme templates work?
Do you understand how unpopular Biden is in the swing states right now?
About as unpopular as trump. They're both around 42% - 44% in PA, depending on the random sample. Do you understand that a PA Republican was literally taking pot shots at trump last weekend?
You realize that makes it worse, right?
I’m not talking about that at the moment. I’m talking about the fact that you evidently don’t understand how meme templates work, which is amusing to me.
Absolutely correct. But even if the choice is a shitty one it's also a very easy one. If you want fascism, vote for Trump. If not, vote for Biden.
Or whoever the Democratic nominee is
There’s a perfectly reasonable conversation to be had about replacing Biden being a better strategy. 10 seconds of thinking will lead one to realize that figuring out the strategy, and then switching to it, is way better than dumping Biden and then figuring out the strategy afterwards. And, it’s notable that all the same outlets who are openly hostile to democracy in the United States were the ones that were pushing so hard on the backwards version of the strategy, until the more gullible parts of the Democratic Party apparatus eventually picked it up and started running with it.
The forward strategy is still fine. The loud preemptive drumbeat of hard criticism of Kamala that is now emerging, though, should hopefully serve as a big loud blaring fucking wake up call to anyone who is sincerely interested in defeating Trump who is still echoing the backwards version.
I've said it before I'll say it again. I'm voting for Kamala but it's not clear she's better than Biden as a strategy.
But what is clear is that Kamala is better than nearly everyone else the Democrats can crown between today and the DNC. We only have a 4 months before the election and Kamala is the only one who was actually campaigning at all.
So if we replace Biden, it's almost purely to give Kamala a running mate. That's about it, and these value in this.
Yeah. To me the only options with any level of realistic viability are:
- Biden
- Harris
- Contested convention, someone with a baseball bat in hand talks firmly to the DNC about not fucking everything up with their foot on the scales like they did in 1968 and 2016, and see what shakes out of an actually fair process
Anything else is nonsense. I have no real ironclad feelings about which of those options is best, although I lean towards 1 or 3, but the DUMP BIDEN RIGHT NOW, NOW NOW NOW, DON’T THINK ABOUT IT BOY DON’T ASK QUESTIONS JUST DO IT OR ELSE YOU DOOM AMERICA AND IT’LL ALL BE YOUR FAULT idea doesn’t appear in that list. To me.
Yeah. I'm not against removing Biden (even if I think keeping Biden is the best option). I'm just against a brainless, plan less removal of Biden.
I've pointed out how Liberals rallied in 2011 for Occupy Wall Street only for Republicans to win in 2012, 2014 and 2016. People need to think about politics of they ever want to get ahead.
It's not sufficient to just get together in a large rally. We need actual votes.
I feel like #2 and #3 will likely lead to Kamala. I'm up for an open and fair convention even if Kamala isn't selected.
I'm not voting for either candidate, I am voting for the people around Biden and against people that support P2025. Pretty simple.
As someone who didn’t think Biden was a good choice in 2020 I fully agree, his administration seems to actually make things better!
If a hypothetical person with all your favorite attributes got elected, after 2 years of propaganda you'd be complaining about how awful they are.
Idk the Drop Biden propaganda isn't really landing with me, and I dont do any other media besides Lemmy. Plus, working in construction has me surrounded by Trumpets everywhere and its not convincing me at all. I'm not immune by any means, but I'm not a fair weather fan either.