Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account
Philips Hue will soon force users to create an account
Attached: 1 image Philips Hue will soon force users to create a Hue account and sign in to continue to use the app and control the smart lights. The best security model to protect smart devices is to keep them disconnected from the internet, or at least keep this option available. #Privacy #InfoSec...
cross-posted from: https://derp.foo/post/250090
There is a discussion on Hacker News, but feel free to comment here as well.
If it’s proprietary, it’ll be enshittified as soon as shareholder value demands.
Can we stop the overuse and over-generalization of "enshitification" which Doctorow had given very explicit meaning to in regards to social networks? It does not simply mean commoditization which is not quite the same but almost synonymous with 'race to the bottom's in regards of trying to increase revenue while simultaneously decreasing costs.
Edit: I'll admit narrowing to "social networks" is a bit too narrow, but the point still stands that it's for two way platforms where there are "two markets." Phillips Hue does not have a two sided market.
The enshitification of enshitification
There is still value in calling out the exploitation. It might not be as shitty as leveraging different customer pools, but it absolutely is the same exact business mindset that creates enshittification.
I don't think it's wrong to at least associate the two things even if "enshittification" remains more about gearing systems to exploit customers vs basic direct exploitation of customers.
to add to this for people that are unsure, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
Nah. He called it that, but the word follows grammatical* structure well enough that it can be easily understood and used in a more general sense. "the gradual increase in which something is shit" = "enshitification".
Fits for what he wanted to use it for. Fits for a whole lot more. One cannot gatekeep language. Whatever is the most effective way to transfer a concept from one mind as to be similarly understood in someone else's, ultimately is language.
* maybe not grammar, but you get what I mean
Lol next step it will demand your WiFi password to always be online, because why not.
The step afterward you ll have 5 "room light subscription options, offering different service for high demanding customers"
Didn't amazon want to be able to secretly piggiback on other known WiFi networks of other wifis known to amazon through connected devices, when some users would refuse to connect their decides to their WiFi? I think I remember something like that, but don't know what came of it. Might have just been a nightmare.
It’s called Amazon Sidewalk and it’s still a thing. When you set up any Amazon device, it defaults to on unless you click it off.
I am sorry to announce you this is totally real and is called «mesh network». I believe, (rotten) apple does the same
I don't even know why people still use Hue anymore. It's overpriced and zigbee and matter exist.
Hue uses Zigbee though, doesn't it? In my experience they're the most reliable Zigbee lights with the most consistent light output, and work very well as routers.
I agree that Hue bulbs are expensive compared to others but they generally are considered some of the best bulbs for color accuracy and build quality. I've considered getting Hue bulbs before but definitely wont be now.
I bought 8 hue bulbs for $12 each like 6 years ago and every one of those suckers still work to this day. And the bridge came with the bundle. I just looked up a replacement bulb and its $20 per bulb. If those still last as long as my originals I will happily keep using them. They have worked flawlessly on my homekit schedule and they turn off at 1am and turn on at dusk every day without fail.
Can someone recommend some good alternative zigbee bulbs? I started using sengled but it seems they stopped making zigbee bulbs so they could work closer with Amazon and their ecosystem…
I’ve been using ikea bulbs since I started with home automation and have had no issues. Some I connect directly to my Zigbee receiver and others I connect to the dirigera hub which home assistant sees through HomeKit.
Yeah, ikea lights have been working great for me as well
I replaced my light switches with ZigBee light switches and just use ordinary light bulbs instead. Obviously no dimming or changing color possible, but that's what the nightlights and led strips are for.
It sucks. Any other compatible app, free or paid, that let you set routines like alarm clocks and that worth it?
The old Hue app still works and I'm also using Hue Essentials, both without any account.
I have a Hue bridge of the 1st generation and a few years ago, the original app was showing pop-ups, that I need to get a new bridge because of the new app that will no longer support my old bridge. So I just kept the old app and the old bridge. Works like a charm all offline.
When I added a motion detector two years ago, the old app didn't find it for setup. That's when I tested the alternative app Hue Essentials and it works just fine offline.
Get a zigbee dongle and add the bulbs to HA directly. For a sunrise alarm I use this Blueprint
Good that I didn't buy, then.
Since the Hue bulbs are using the Zigbee standard, you can still safely buy them in the foreseeable future and just connect it with something like SkyConnect, zzh!, Conbee, etc. and use it with Home Assistant
I was under the impression that the v2 Hue Zigbee was encrypted, and hadn't yet been broken.
Is this still the case?
Are phillips things reflashable with esphome/tasmota? I'm not a huge fan of tuya, but so fari have been able to reflash/rebrain everything i gave bought from them. It should be a lot easier though :/
If it’s proprietary, it’ll be enshittified as soon as shareholder value demands.
I made an account with them 6 years ago when I bought the bulbs. Who fucking cares? Everything has an account now, I'm just numb to it by this point