I halfway was going to just drop it, but decided to come back and also explain it for any few that happened to trip across this time capsule of a comment years down the line, but see it on lemmy instead of kbin, and them getting confused about what I implied earlier

on some social media sites where you upvote yourself by default, it's all fine and dandy since that's the default and everyone already has their own - people looking over messages know it all beforehand and everything is upfront

on somewhere like kbin, where you have to go out of your way to do it, it can come off as manipulation to make a message appear to have a greater consensus than it would otherwise have. the next step up, and in definitely-ethically-dubious territory, is having multiple accounts to upvote yourself to boost your message

early upvotes/downvotes makes others that are quickly passing by a message feel more comfortable piling on one way or the other; group psychology is funky like that. it's also a way some bad actors social engineer the system to get what they want seen to be seen, while burying others. I'm not saying you're doing any of that beyond upvoting only yourself, but maybe this all explains a little better on the reasoning about its sketchiness on upvoting yourself on specific social media that don't give a self upvote by default. It's not a god-awful thing to do since a single vote is mostly innocuous, but it also isn't a good look when someone looks into it and spots it

that's at least a little more than mildly infuriating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribalism
it's going with the "us vs them" mentality mentioned in the post. and I see you with your self-upvote there, I really love kbin for that transparency

[tosses you out of the kidnapping van]

there's literally a sex% speedrunning category https://www.speedrun.com/baldurs_gate_3?h=sex&x=7dgemg72

you either agree with me, or you're in the other tribe

the younger generation doesn't have to ingest all that lead in everything, but that just leaves more room for all those microplastics

I think you misunderstood what I said, I'm agreeing with you on the mental gymnastics, but the argument you put out wasn't exactly the best when given to the PoV of the gymnast; they're avoiding ingesting tap water in favor of bottled, but they ingest it regardless, unless they wash everything with bottled water like a very crazy person

and didn't expect to respond again about this crazy hypothetical person that lives rent free in both our minds, but I'm going to evict that person right now for my own sanity

to the ackchyuallies here: I know, but relax and enjoy the mental image of the fiction

and some say it's now eldensekisoulsbornecore

I'm not defending bottled water, but in regards to the shower argument, there's a reason things are rated for topical use vs food grade

the better argument is someone drinking bottled water while using tap water to wash their foods

and no other prints around, so the cat came out and, of course, immediately went back in

same deal with the ones with matching the orientation of something with a given direction being pointed at; it's training 2d-to-3d AI image generators

I couldn't seem to find it in the article, but I hope it wasn't like I previously saw: silkworms being boiled alive en masse

to add to this for people that are unsure, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

for me, the main selling point of kbin over lemmy was the transparency in user interactions on here. the last straw on the camel's back over at lemmy for me was seeing blatant vote manipulation hiding behind the end-user anonymity; kept an eye on some accounts that would instantly always get the same number of upvotes, dependent on the specific account, less than 3-5 seconds after posting. it was always some single-digit amount (I assume to not get flagged by the system), but that's all it takes to signal others to feel safer upvoting it.

the same can be done likewise to bury others' content that they can view as competition to what they want seen, multiple early downvotes can act as a subconscious deterrent to others

hot dogs in your area

another reason I heard is it's also another tool to give the company wiggle room to say they're not in the best state they could be, that there's still room for growth. under the current system, companies have to keep growing and keep appearing to have the potential for growth, or die

opportunity cost as a mental disease, colorized

okay, I'll concede, my scope also was pretty limited. I still stand by not trusting the public with deciding what's the best use of AI, when most people think what we have now is anything more than statistics supercharged in its implementation.