Conservative @lemm.ee Kaboom @reddthat.com 1w ago

The past 2 weeks really have just been the Democrats doubling down and saying the quiet part out loud.

Yes, it's a PCM meme, but still accurate as fuck.

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I’ve always wondered why conservatives harbor so much hate for immigrants and not the business owners taking advantage of vulnerable populations

That second part won’t go away, they’ll just make a different vulnerable group
- We want them gone too, it's just harder to go after companies.
  
  So going after the people being exploiters instead is constructive?
- Because in a free market, “taking advantage of” someone else always involves them taking advantage of you too. It’s an exchange economy.
  
  In a free market, being used means being paid.
  
  If you really want to understand how conservatives think, you need to remember that we see our economy as a system of consensual trades between adults.
  
  Being exploited is always paired with exploiting the one exploiting you. That’s why we talk in terms of “jobs”. Trade: a two-way thing.
  
  That’s some pretty serious mental gymnastics that completely disregards how employee/employer relationships work in the real world.
  
  If you really want to understand how conservatives think, you need to remember that we see our economy as a system of consensual trades between adults.
  
  It’s not really “consensual” if the alternative is homelessness, starvation, and criminalization is it?
are you equating slavery and immigration?

fuckin dumbos
- That is why you guys are importing cheap labor, is it not?
  
  Nobody is importing cheap labor. Are you a moron lmfaooo
  
  What a way to tell me you know nothing of the migration crisis. The answer is right there and instead you take the moronic scenic route.
  
  Such a more obvious way to criticize the west and you choose to be dumb and ineffective lol
I don't want any damn Mexicans working low paid agriculture jobs and paying taxes! I want MY taxes to go toward the private prisons that will house them before more of my taxes go toward deporting them! I'm prepared to pay even more for groceries so get ICE rolling.
- All you've done is replace black people with Mexicans. Are you happy with yourself?
  
  Don't worry, there's plenty of room in these for-profit prisons for other minorities.
I don't understand. Is the statement incorrect? Or are you hoping that the wages for pickers will go up enough for "real Americans" to take the jobs?
- I'm hoping the wages will go up, yes.
  
  Is it a likely progression? And how long do you believe it will take? Also, I'm curious what you are basing your hope on and what the you believe the knock-on effects will be. It would be good to know if something similar happened in the US or another country in order to compare.
  
  why hope when you can vote for people who will pass laws to make the wages go up?
Look what happened to the agricultural situation in the UK after brexit: a large portion of the east EU citizens left and there was no one who wanted to pick crops.

Now they can't get seasonal workers because of visa issues.
- Well they could simply raise wages
  
  Then the farmers go broke. Or prices could rise allowing the farmers to be paid better, and in turn pay better wages.
y’know i’m honestly a little relieved that other conservatives are just as willfully ignorant as the ones i have to interact with in person.

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