Was that comment really a rule violation? Would you want that comment to be removed if someone else had posted it?
I just don't see the controversy here.
Do you think it's against the rules to imply that someone's religion isn't real? Why should that be something we can't say?
yup definitely broke a rule. if you look at the actual context the offense is more obvious.
Mods have been using their positions to silence/ support specific political views in both c/news and c/politics (see non-rule breaking ban of @[email protected] ). The have a very specific and narrow political view they are "ok" with seeing and anything that strays from that gets removed (see @[email protected] , @[email protected] ). However, its not any different than reddit in this regard, which was more draconian in that because it was so much larger, there were fewer consequences to banning individuals.
Here, the consequences are much much steeper. You can map the return2ozma ban directly to a drop in site wide/ lemmy wide engagement, because they were the one doing the actual work of posting content. Banning them had immediate and significant consequences to the viabiltiy of the platform, in that it survives on content/ engagement, which @[email protected] was disproportional responsible for. In these kinds of arbitrary bans, these mods are hurting the entire platforms viability in a significant way.
Dude was rightfully banned for spamming the community. It’s absolutely against the rules. That you think it was a politically motivated move by the mods only shows your own bias in these matters.
The community he was banned from has banned people on al sides of the political spectrum. So when you go looking for a bias, you’ll find one if you want to.
From my perspective, Ozma does nothing but post anti-Biden propaganda. The dude is a bit of I ever saw one.
So you see, there two sides to everything. Who were left to do our best to see things from the perspective of those trying to maintain balance. And in this case, due was banned for spamming.
Nothing more.
thanks for sharing! i do recommend posting these issues somewhere (possibly here but unsure if mods are active; testing this out with this post) so that, if not accountability, there is at least awareness of the leanings and controversies of certain mod groups
Well its a push pull. Those who might mod are typically far more engaged, and its a thankless job. Its not something that can be easily automated and there is real important work around true bad faith actors trying to derail the entire platform/ fediverse.
Its also important to acknowledge that its a balancing act, and that frankly, I think if you are a mod for a community, maybe you should't be allowed to participate in discussions in that community?
Its like, if you are playing pitcher, you shouldn't also be calling balls and strikes. More broadly, its something we'll need to keep iterating on and thinking about as a fediverse; it goes beyond lemmy and extends to the entire principal of large scale social media.
Can anecdotally say that I've pretty much stopped using Lemmy completely at this point because of mods than somehow feel even worse than Reddit's. Only shitposting because I've got a 5 day weekend and fuckall to do
I think this is a good example of the "cost" associated with how people decide to mod.
Were a very, very small community. There are maybe in the low thousand to upper hundreds engaged users across the entire fediverse.
And social media engagement always follows a log distribution, so for every 10,000 scrolling past, maybe 100 comment and 1 posts.
Preventing people from posting/ disrupting engagement because you've got a little fiefdom and an axe to grind is a great way to kill lemmy as a platform in the crib.
