"That is madness": Pope Francis condemns Texas migrant crackdown, rejects "conservative" Catholicism
"That is madness": Pope Francis condemns Texas migrant crackdown, rejects "conservative" Catholicism
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It's weird to see the traditional roles getting reversed here
Where the established order would usually represent the conservative side of the schism, here the conservatives are the schismatics with official doctrine, to the degree of even rejecting official decrees where it suits them or even if it really doesn't just because they hate modernity (see the weirdos still using latin despite not understanding it at all)
Yeah, because they aren't actually conservative. They're regressive, if anything.
For these guys, if the Pope disagrees with them, then they'll reject the Pope. Most of them probably already identify as Christian, not Catholic, anyway. (They probably wouldn't say Protestant, if they were more specific it would probably be because they were Baptists or something.)
I’ve been hearing people say “not my pope” for years now. Oh, and that Jesus was too “woke” and weak, turning the other cheek.
It happens in Catholicism sometimes because liberal Catholics just ignore shit and get ignored until they start leaving. The church has understood this since the Protestant reformation.
I despise a lot about religion but I have enjoyed seeing the Catholic Church slowly become a bit more accepting of humanity’s nature by being more inclusive with the LGBT population and now seeing this. It gives me hope that religion is capable of growing alongside people and adapting to something better than it is has been and is.
I support religion as long as it gives people a sense of community, hope, and strength. When it starts taking things away, being oppressive, and not holding its officiants accountable for wrong doing, it’s wrong.
I support religion as long as it gives people a sense of community, hope, and strength.
I used to feel this way. Then 2020 happened and I realized just how damaging any degree of magical thinking and faith based reasoning was for a society.
I no longer think there's an innocuous amount of irrationality. Just varying degrees of social harm that come with any of it.
Cancer is also capable of growing.
#NotMyPope
American catholics have long disfavored papal influence so this isn't likely to change any minds. Additionally, while the pope is mostly a piece of shit, this is a nice move - so it's broken clock time.
This pope is pretty stand out. Previous one was an idiot.
Don't talk about the Emperor that way. The Senate forced his hand.
Okay…but could Vatican City help the situation by opening its doors to Migrants from Mexico? Are they able to house them, provide them food and water, provide them medical care, provide them child care and education for their unvaccinated children, and promise them jobs to sustain themselves long-term? Can they justify raising the taxes on the working class of their own people to pay for these migrants? They’ll probably need to raise taxes on big businesses. This will probably result in big business raising their prices to recoup their losses from paying higher taxes. They probably won’t be able to take it out of other areas, because minimum wage is always increasing as cost of production often increases, too, for most companies. Then those companies will be selling overpriced products to the inhabitants of that country, with people about to riot over how expensive everything has become; especially food, for example. Some might say it’s not that big of a deal, but the money to support a new, huge, group of people has to come from somewhere. Does Italy have the money to fund all of that?
Some of our nation’s homeless might have better treatment if they crossed the border to Mexico and then turned around, and crossed it again, as a migrant.
Instead of encouraging so many people to run from a country that can’t protect its people, or provide for them, why can’t other nations take a stand against that country’s government and intervene? It’s going to cause civil unrest to push a huge group of people from one country into another, where the language and culture are different. Avoid all of that, have America, and other nations intervene to improve Mexico so people won’t be risking their lives to cross the border, and causing mass outrage here, in America.
Vatican City is 109 acres, and your genius idea is to ship thousands of Central American refugees over there, seemingly as punishment for the Pope calling us out on failing our responsibility to help these people.
What a very Republican idea...
I’m actually a democrat. I would just like to see solutions presented in political discussion rather than constant criticism. It leads nowhere to just turn the spotlight on those who want to give their criticisms. I want solutions. The same problems from migrants, to Gaza, have been floating around the political toilet bowl for decades and every so often someone famous throws in their two cents and receives a pat on the back for criticizing the way things are. Yes, things are bad. Now less talk, more action. Fix it.
It's crazy how every country and Earth is allowed to have immigration laws and policies in place, except the US...for some reason, it's so controversial.
Most of the world is wide open my dude. You fill out the paperwork and register in the right places and you’re set. The US treats it like a mixture of war and prison.
Because most countries are not like the US. The US is one of the most sought after countries in the world to live in, while also being one of the most hated by countries all over the world. My safety is important, I don't want some dude to just come in and decide to blow himself up in the middle of LA.