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Sovereign Computing | Start9

Sovereign computing for a free future

StartOS facilitates the entire process of discovering, installing, configuring, and using any variety of open-source software from anywhere in the world without trusting anyone.

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BECOME BITCOIN BECOME LIGHTNING

LOL, not in a million years. Dumping this like the cryptocurrency infected garbage it is.
- Nobody can stop you from spending your money as you see fit, 24/7/365, from anywhere, to anywhere, instantly, and for free.
  
  Except it's not.
  
  I mean, that quote is truer for any regular currency than it is for shitcoin. The only unique thing about cryptocurrency (and especially POW ones) is that it's flushing the environment down the drain even quicker than bog standard hypercapitalism. And still you can't use your fucking monopoly money to buy a bottled water.
without trusting anyone.

Well, except of course the entity that gave you the hardware. And the entity that preinstalled and/or gave you the OS image. And that that entity wasn't fooled into including malicious code in some roundabout way.

like it or not, there's currently no real way to use any significant amount of computing power without trusting someone. And usually several hundreds/thousands of someones.

The best you can hope for is to focus the trust into a small number of entities that have it in their own self interest to prove worthy of that trust.
- Well said. Solid facts.
Nobody can stop you from spending your money as you see fit, 24/7/365, from anywhere, to anywhere, instantly, and for free.

N—... Nobody is doing that now, with regular money, either. Why would anyone want to stop me from spending my money? Apart from maybe my wife...
- Nobody is doing that now, with regular money, either.
  
  I think it's more for ACH between banks as well as some banks have limits. Also, a government literally stepped in to actively block people's accounts. Just because you can swipe your card and buy a soda, doesn't mean there aren't restrictions or people being blocked.
  
  Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland said Thursday financial institutions have moved quickly to freeze the accounts of people linked to the demonstrations in Ottawa, leaving an unknown number of protesters in financial limbo
  
  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-protests-frozen-bank-accounts-1.6355396
  
  Well that's scary. Luckily I live nowhere near that part of the world.
  
  But even if I have a server, I'll have to have my own separate Internet if I really want to be able to pay unrestrictedly. Otherwise the government would just shut down my internet connection, right?
I really like the idea of user-friendly selfhosting (which is essentially what this company is offering, I mean hell, I've had similar business ideas floating around in my head too) BUT any company that has:

an in-the-know marketing team

Any employees that are somewhat technical enough (which should be guaranteed for a company with this sort of product

NOT a scam

Would know what a HUGE risk reputation-wise it is to showcase crypto-related selfhosting on the FRONT page. It's like a "build-a-red-flag" or "destroy-our-reputation" speedrun. Even IF you want to offer this, anyone in-the-know with at least 3 braincells would bury this deep in the page and make it difficult to find (if they were well-intentioned in the first place) because at this point anything crypto, especially being the main offering, is a huge red flag.

If instead, they offered a nextcloud instance, for example, or Pihole as an adblocker, or some other good and common services, maybe a selfhosted VPN (or maybe not, because of the stupid and misleading ads of VPN companies), they would be seen as 100% more legit.

Edit: Just checked their marketplace and they have:

Jellyfin

Vaultwarden

FreeGPT-2

Gitea

Matrix

Nextcloud

Their own service for TOR pages

Ghost (a blogging platform)

SearxNG (a search engine)

I mean, add Wordpress, Pihole and some other friendly services, and advertise THOSE!!! Build your own Google (SearxNG)! Build your own MS Office online and OneDrive (Nextcloud)! Build your own Github (Gitea)! Build your own Discord (Matrix)! Build your own password manager (Vaultwarden)! Build your own Netflix (Jellyfin)!
- True. Tipi, Umbrel and CasaOS are savvy enough to do this. But do you really want to teach more cryptobros to slip their message under the threshold? I'm fine that they show their true goals front and centre, it's like a note saying "hit me" taped to their backs.
  
  Fair point. But even if they were legit in any way, I'm already positioned not to trust them.
What the hell is this? Half way down the page it becomes a crypto advert...
This looks real stupid.
- On the contrary, it (the website) looks really nice.
  
  The product, on the other hand, seems targeted towards "normies" and would probably do better in a place that doesn't have ppl already self hosting their stuff.
  
  Thats true. Website is immaculate. But its some kinda crypto scam by the looks of it.
- You sound real stupid
  
  Bruh are you really going to my other comments and commenting. Are you 12? Go touch grass.
  
  I mean, this does look stupid, but you also do sound stupid in another post, so I stand by the original comment
Packaging a service for StartOS is a challenging, exciting, creative, and rewarding experience.

Yeah no thanks I'll just run it on Ubuntu or Arch Linux then, where a package is already available.
Like to tinker? DIY your server.

Yeah I love doing it myself my server.
How's it standing out? What's the benefit over other self-hosting distros like YunoHost, Cosmos, Cloudron etc? Except the added Bitcoin?
- "Sovereignty", that big white whale of the dysfunctional far right?
  
  Sry, I don't get at all what you're trying to say...
- Start9 tunnels all traffic through TOR.
  
  That seems like terrible idea. Sure it's private. It's also slow as shit. That's why you don't use TOR for daily tasks.
You lost me the second I saw crypto shit.
Looks nice, will wait to see how it takes off

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