I wouldn't be bringing this back if someone didn't tell me Blades in the Dark "doesn't count" [read description]
I wouldn't be bringing this back if someone didn't tell me Blades in the Dark "doesn't count" [read description]
I get used to people telling me to try another game, but if I do and you tell me it doesn't count for some stupid reason and basically saying what you meant was "Pathfinder or old editions of d&d"? Yeah I'm fucking mad.
EDIT: Because I see reading comprehension is bad af here: Someone told me to play a different game. I told them I'm already doing Blades, first session tomorrow. they told me Blades doesn't count and told me to play Pathfinder and older editions of d&d.
Ironically for a post complaining about reading comprehension, but you misrepresented the original post you're talking about. Even have the classic "quotation marks around a thing that was never said" in the title.
First, and perhaps most obvious, this wasn't "everyone". This was one person, and they didn't get many upvotes. When I recommend a TTRPG, for example, I'm recommending Genesys (like someone else did).
Second, they weren't saying to homebrew old editions of D&D. They were saying you don't need to homebrew at all. At most, they said you could reflavour something in 4th edition. Their entire point was that you don't need to homebrew when you can just find a system that already has what you would have homebrewed in.
Third, they were suggesting this as an alternative to homebrewing specific material into D&D 5e. Pathfinder can provide the experience of "5e with time travel" that you wanted without any modifications. BitD is so different from 5e that it can't.
You are, however, correct that they did backtrack. I'll put this down to poorly explaining their argument to start with, as they downplayed the "5e but better" games in their first comment while that was really their entire point.
Personally, I like homebrewing. It's fun to tinker with the rules and materials. But there's also an argument to not repeat work someone else has already done.
I usually recommend people try games that are "Not D&D or a close relative of it." Blades is not a close relative of D&D. It's a close relative of PbtA.
BitD in no way resembles the statisticians' stroganoff that is oldschool D&D. Step away from the pipe.
"Try more games" is great advice, and it's always good to expand your horizons, but at some point it stopped being actual advice and became the catchphrase of people who just can't handle the idea that someone would choose to play D&D.
Instead of making your own homebrew, just play someone else's homebrew that they've already balanced and playtested.
But I like homebrewing myself.
I want more people to play Changeling: the Dreaming, or older World of Darkness games.
But not Changing: The Lost 2nd Edition, fuck that game. We played one campaign, and the rulebook was an absolute pain in the ass to read and reference from the beginning to the end of the whole campaign. We had to make rules up to fill in the gaps. The index was a joke.
Sorry. Changeling: the Dreaming is fine. I played it briefly, and it was fine. C:tL2e is just such a trainwreck, I feel like I'm trauma dumping.
Yeah, poor formatting is a throughline of a lot of White Wolf books. Everyone complains about people not reading the books, when I actively choose to ignore them (especially Mage, that's an absolute behemoth of a CRB.)
Are you are suggesting Blades in the Dark is some kind of derivative of D&D? If so, that is a very hot take. And even if you like 5e, imo, Pathfinder 2e is right there doing the same thing but better.
See my other comment, it was a person trying to get me to play pathfinder who started with "play other rpgs" and then said Blades "doesn't count".
Is there another sub for non-meme ttrpg discussion?
I'll say it here regardless - Feng Shui is my favourite system that's not Blades or DnD or derivates.
The whole premise is based around Hong Kong style action flicks. Most enemies have one hit point. If you hit, they go down. If you describe your action well, you get a bonus- instead of saying "I kick the guy", players are encouraged to say "I leap from the balcony, swing from the tapestry, and fly-kick the guy in the head". The setting includes four distinct time periods, so you can travel from a cyberpunk future to a colonial history between sessions. It's fast, it lends itself to simple plots, and it's fun to be awesome.