Canada @lemmy.ca Octospider @kbin.social 9mo ago

MPs from all parties vote for Electoral Reform – but not enough to win

www.fairvote.ca Vote result: MPs from all parties vote for Motion M-86 - but not enough to win - Fair Vote Canada

You can see how each member voted here: https://www.ourcommons.ca/Members/en/votes/44/1/634

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Respect to all the Bloc MPs who voted yea. Those guys make out like bandits under the current system.
- I can appreciate someone voting for their ideals rather than for their interests.
- This wasnt a motion to change the base system, only some slight adjustments to improve access.
  
  Right, I remember now someone shared that a few days ago. Well, I suppose that's less impressive then. And way less impressive on the part of the HoC to not pass something basic like improved voting access.
Like, technically, but clearly the CPC wanted it dead. The LPC was also rather divided but mostly supported it.

My guy voted "Yea" though, so they're cool.
- I'm oddly proud of BC, way to get a majority there guys.
  
  But major kudos to Quebec, your MP's are actually listening (here), but also NWT, Nova Scotia, Nunavut, PWI, and the Yukon.
  
  As is tradition though, the prairies let us down.
  
  We love dynasties out here on the prairies, no matter how little it relates to reality.
- Same. Was legit surprised lol.
- Same.
- The CPC are probably convinced the only way they can achieve a majority under Poilievre is if they get a false majority through a lucky roll of FPTP. In 2015 they were all upset that the LPC got a majority with only 39% of votes
  
  FPTP has generally benefitted the LPC. I remember an analysis I read about the time they were "promising" election reform that said in close races, over 60% of the time the Liberals ended up with the election. Wish I could still find it, my google-fu is failing me tonight.
  
  Besides, this bill had nothing to do with that. It wasn't going to fix anything even if it had passed.
At least the political will is growing.
- Yeah I really hope that we gain traction for this within our lifetimes because I think it will be the first step in helping our democracy reflect the will of the people
Can someone explain how the PM has both a yea and nay vote? I'm genuinely confused.
- This looks more accurate: https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/12865436#DOC--12867863
  
  He voted Nay :(
  
  Just a reminder of what he said in 2015
Seems wrong that the elected people get to decide if we change how they get elected. Once they have their seat they can fight to keep it against electoral change.
If anyone was wondering about the Conservatives:

Ben Lobb (Huron-Bruce), John Nater (Perth-Wellington), Alex Ruff (Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound)

Bernard Généreux (Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup) also had his vote marked updated, so maybe he flip-flopped.

This doc has the worst format, BTW.
This bill was not going to achieve anything anyway. It wasn't addressing FPTP in any way.

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