Hey everyone, first time posting. Hoping there are others with similar
experiences who can share insight, but at minimum I want to put my thoughts
down. I [29MtF] am pre-everything, but have accepted I am trans for the last 4
years with the understanding I would never transition. Continuing to live ...
Link to my first post. When we were sharing our new year's resolutions with each other earlier this month, I told her I want to he more true to myself, and more honest with her. I told her she deserves that, and that I love her.
We have talked about having "a conversation" soon. For us, we understand this to mean at least 2-3 hours where we sit down intending to talk without being interrupted. Time has continued to get away from us as we are settling into being parents as well with a 2 month old.
We have each made mentions of, "the conversation", and how we haven't forgotten, just haven't had the right moment yet.
Girls, I am just so proud of myself for taking this step. Even though nothing has really happened yet, it feels like more has happened in the last month than in my entire life.
Here is a reply I made to Alteon which I think adds helpful context. I do think some of their concerns had validity, even though I don't believe they applied to my situation. Also, thank you for moderating this community!
"Thanks for sharing your perspective. I read through your other comments as well. Thankfully, my wife is in a very solid place at the moment. I was able to take the first 2 months off work to help raise our child, and we made sure to make financial arrangements where she could take extended time off work before returning to her career. We haven't had any sort of "Mac and Cheese" moments like you mentioned. A big part of why I haven't already told her anything is because I wanted to be sure she felt secure and comfortable when we had this conversation.
Another thing I'd like to add is that having a child was a very difficult decision for me. Obviously it's a big deal for both of us, but she actually wanted a child. When she and I were dating, we agreed not to have children. About a year into our marriage, she changed her mind. We talked about it for years, and eventually we agreed to be a one-and-done family. I wanted her to be happy; I didn't want to deprive her of a child. Furthermore, I realised I would rather have her in my life with a child, than no child without her. She never gave me such an ultimatum, but I never wanted to get close to something like that. I certainly don't think I have "saddled" her in the way that word implies.
About this conversation we are planning to have. I do expect it to go well. I am not certain, but I expect it to. Part of the reason is I am not sitting her down to say, "this is how things are, deal with it." Like the rest of our relationship, we will have an open dialogue about what works best for us. I have made many sacrifices for her over the years, and I will happily make many more. She has done and will continue to do the same for me, even if it doesn't necessarily look the way I would hope it to. That is the nature of compromise.
If all that comes from this is that she knows about my dysphoria and the daily struggle it is for me so that I can confide in her about it, that's okay. Even better if she is fully supportive, but I want to continue having a relationship where we share our strengths and weaknesses with each other. This is the one piece of me that hasn't been shared.
If this makes me sound like an asshole, then I don't know what to say. Hope you continue having a nice day."
Alteons reply to you showed their true colours though. They weren't here to change their perspective. They were here to tell you off for being trans in a way they don't agree with.
You're a really cool person, Kayday. I'm glad you have such an open and caring relationship with your wife. Wishing you the best, I'm sure your talk will go great!
Nothing about my comment was remotely transphobic. At all.
My issue was entirely related to the fact that OP has known about this for years and proceeded to get pregnant with someone before either a.) Talking first, or b.) postponing the pregnancy.
OP made a selfish decision by doing that. Does that mean they should stay closeted? Not at all!
So, please, be clear here: is this community about blind support regardless of people's choices, or are we allowed to actually have discussion here? Because if we're not allowed to actually discuss these things, I'll remove myself voluntarily. Blind support regardless of nuance or circumstance is frankly ridiculous.
My only suggestion to them was that they should at least hold off telling their spouse until the post-pregnancy hormones wear off and things have stabilized around that house. Is this the comment that was considered transphobic? Again, just asking for clarification here...
If your experience is anything like mine, be prepared to have it twice 😂
It was a hard thing to bring up, and hard to hear so she ended up forgetting a lot of it the first time around. I'd say depending on heads pace, be prepared to go slow and maybe take breaks in the conversation to let some ideas "settle". You get these ideas and expectations about how life is going to go and something like this will put a kink into all of it and you kind of have to realign what you thought was going to happen with where you're heading now.
Edit: Also don't forget that first few months after a baby can be a rough time emotionally, so that is definitely going to affect everyone's feelings about it at some point.
That first conversation can seem so daunting, but I love that you and your wife have been working to set aside time to talk about it! Coming out can be one of the hardest steps to take, and it sounds like you've already made a lot of progress towards getting there :)
I'll throw my 2 cents in. My experience closest to a situation like this is when one of my inlaws came to discover he was ace, while having a wife and kids. I won't go into the weeds with what happened because I heard most of it through my spouse but I know it put a lot of strain on their marriage before their realization. Afterwards they had something to work on, which did help.
They're still married after a few years. But it's a situation where I feel they should open it up because one side isn't getting their needs met.
The thing that will be important is being honest. My experience being with trans women is that their tastes/needs/wants change from pre transition to fine with where they're at. I'm not the same person as my 10 year old self. It isn't a bad thing, but as I said be honest to both yourself and your spouse. Think about how you want her to treat you. Think about how you want your child to treat you.
Good luck, and I hope everything works well for you!