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I don't like police officers as a general rule. But I also don't really advocate for death as a blanket statement. This is just a poor taste joke.
Edit: Jesus, ya'll can stop replying now. No wonder we have genocide, so easy to dehumanized others, and not even notice.
You can stop being a cop. The victims of cops can't stop being black.
The victims of cops can't stop being black while only 1,858 out 8,248 victims of police brutality were black from 2017-2024
It's seems the proponents of ACAB are only capable of heuristic reasoning.
That's not a graph of police brutality, that is a graph of killings by gunshot wounds from police.
Now let's find out how many people are black out of the US population and figure out why the numbers you posted is a problem.
Fair enough. I guess my overarching point is that making generalizing statements like "all cops are racist" or "the victims of cops can't stop being black" are harmful to the discussion considering there are also non-black victims of police brutality.
I feel it's better to say that there's an issue with racism within the police force that needs a solution (which is one of the main points of BLM) rather than resorting to lazy slogans like ACAB that do nothing to further the discussion. The very definition of slacktivism
The problem is you have no way of knowing, and the consequences of interacting with a cop are frequently death or life altering injury. As a result you have to treat every interaction as of you are dealing with a racist murderer who faces no consequences.
So doing what any normal and intelligent individual would do when faced with interacting with cops? That's not the ACAB I'm used to seeing being paraded on here.
The point is that cops absolutely have the power to kick out the bastards from the force (they have strong unions and dictate their working conditions) and actively choose not to. They are all complicit and know what they signed up for.
Fair enough
True for all 17k policing agencies in the US?
If it’s true for only 16.999k of those agencies, then “Policing Enables Bastards” works w/o any sithlike absolutes :)
That's not normal outside of USA. You're crazy if you think it is.
This very well may be Stockholm syndrome, or something close to it.
Just because you know what to do to mitigate your chances of being shot doesn't mean that that behavior isn't still shitty. Look into how police are trained. They're trained like the military, only the enemy is civilians.
While people might actually say out loud that all cops are racist, what they actually mean is that the system is racist. Not all cops are racist, but they participate in a racist system. That makes them bastards.
Id say that's pretty bastard-like myself.
Id say that's definitely one of the core issues, but also the police's core history as well. I do know that cops can do good things, but I'll still stand with the ACAB crowd all day. Even though those cops can and do good things, at their core they've joined an organization that will protect themselves and the rich at the cost of us. That is undeniable. There is something categorically wrong with the police force in the US and likely most of the world.
This is kinda the problem with this reasoning though. You'd have to admit the police do more good than harm by maintaining some form of societal order and occasional brutality is only some consequence of it.
I'd prefer to live in a world with bastards that maintain order than none at all.
That's what we're talking about though. What they're doing is not order. The police typically escalate situations that don't need to be escalated, they're prone to fear because it's how they're trained and they view us as criminals and assailants. They do not protect order for normal people, they protect order for those that have enough power and influence.
No one feels comfortable when cops are around aside from cops and the rich. You're trading false security for your rights.
I agree about blanket statements and calls for death, but it looks to me like this meme is just calling cops trash.
Some people can't accept that other people don't respect the regime authority. Mocking pigs to some is in off itself is offensive so original commenter using generic "violence is never right" argument to justify his reaction of distaste for OP.
You correctly observed that he misread the meme, just reflexively responded as a bootlicker.
Not really, I just don't automatically wish death on people as a default state. They're still human beings. You're just trying to stir shit up for no reason.
There was no "wishing for cops death" until you brought it up. Everyone was just happily calling them trash until you came in here with assumptions and all this violent malarkey.
The implications of a police officer in a casket absolutely is.
I'm just sad it's only one casket.
careful NYPD gonna label you as an "extremist" this is even worse than celebrating a dead
CEOparasite.
What does this gif mean?
You're extrapolating your own meaning from it, you've had 3 separate people telling you "I don't take it to mean this" and yet each time you've tried to tell them how they mean it this way.
You're pulling info that confirms your bias and ignoring actually testimony from multiple sources otherwise.
You can't reason away other people's thought processes to say they mean this, the best you can do is say, I took it as this, because of this, and I don't like it.
Police officers (trash) are taking a dead police officer (trash) out of the building.
Trash taking seats trash out.
Trash taking itself out.
There's no death wishing here, just that if an alive cop is trash, a dead one still is. That's the only thing being said here.
You’re just trying to stir shit up for no reason.
They are stirring shit up to, I assume, advocate for change.
They’re still human beings.
There is plenty of human beings that would improve the world by kicking the bucket.
That's very likely the point of the post: to stir shit up.
And there's nothing inherently wrong with that.
FTP
No one made such a statement, but thanks for the pearl clutching.
They're human beings who have chosen to sell their body and will to the state to be used as a cudgel to enforce the state's will through violence. We would prefer that they voluntarily stop participating in the oppression, but if they don't they are willingly taking up arms against the disenfranchised, which means I have less than zero sympathy when they get what's coming to them.
"The state's will" in most cases is to stop a murderer or a robber or whatnot.
People work for the police not to become the instrument of the state, but to prevent actual crimes. The rest sadly often comes after.
Y'all acting like cops are just useless parasites - good luck surviving a week in a modern word without them.
People work for the police not to become the instrument of the state, but to prevent actual crimes.
Poorly educated take lol
They are legally and mentally the big dick of the law.
I wonder what's your definition of "education", then. I am familiar with several sources on anarchist theory, which is seemingly what you appeal for.
Policemen are instruments of law, of course. But not having them means all laws become impossible to enforce - and I'd kindly like to be protected from murder, arson, robbery, assault, fraud etc.
In an established anarchist society it is theorized to be possible to go without laws by various means, but our world is not that.
People become police because it is a job a with decent pay and provides authority.
Police doesn't "prevent" crime. Police protects property of the owner class and desrvea their needs. Sometimes they help a wage worker if it is not too inconvenient for them but they can also ruin your life.
Yeah because cops have always existed
In before times, crimes were easier to stop as people primarily lived in small communities and it was easy to find out and exclude people, which then often meant death.
But even still, plenty of today's crimes were rampant. As much as I'd love to see anarchism in action, this requires core changes to the structure of society, and we're not at the point where getting rid of police will be a positive step forward.
Police doesn't stop crime, it never has and it never will. You have to get this idea out of your head.
No wonder we have genocide
Yes Israel is committing genocide in Gaza becuase Americans hate their occupation force 🤡
I'm with you. People can be so fucked up sometimes...
You're apparently the only one if this comment chain is any indication.
Y'all glowing together?