Trump suggests Palestinians leave Gaza and ‘we just clean out’ territory
Trump suggests Palestinians leave Gaza and ‘we just clean out’ territory
US president says he wants people to move to neighbouring nations, after resuming shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel
Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.
The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.
“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.
He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.
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It's probably the only way to end the conflict without waiting several generations and hoping that cultures change over that time, and a significant improvement to the quality of life of most people in Gaza.
The land itself is not the deciding factor. The conflict would end if Egypt agreed to annex Gaza and no one was forcibly displaced. I think any rational Israeli would agree to that (this may not include the current government) but Egypt doesn't want it, and reasonably so.
Whaat? How is it at all fair to kick these people out of their homeland? Especially after Israel’s response was so incredibly disproportionate when compared to the October 7th attacks. Like what 3k people vs well over 40k??? Bombing hospitals???
Given Trump’s comments about the real estate in Gaza let’s not pretend he just doesn’t want to give it to Israel if he gets a piece of the development pie. Let’s not forget Netanyahu was visiting Trump before he assumed the presidency.
It’s not right. The Palestinians should have their land back. The only moral solution is a two state solution. The only secure solution is a two state solution. Dispossessing regular people and effectively kicking them when they’re down isn’t exactly a deterrent to terrorism.
I fear they’ve already decided what they’re going to do and now they’re just trying to make everyone buy it.
Not to mention, Israel had warning of the Oct 7 attacks and chose to let it happen because they wanted an excuse to commit genocide.
It was negligence and understandestimation of hamas capabilities rather than a plan rather than a deliberate choice to allow the attack
Considering the stakes Benjy has in the potential trade route running right through Gaza and evidence that suggests he was giving funding to hamas, I'm not so sure. It would explain his continued overescalation in attacks on Palestine.
That being said I could change my tune if I did see a legitimate reason to.
At this point I'd support Israel losing it's independence to Palestine.
The only moral solution is disarmament and a single state with equal representation.
The two state solution was the compromise.
Oh there’ll be a single state if Trump gets his way. But it’ll be Israel.
I believe the current number is 46500. I think after all is done, if we ever get a "true" number, it will be closer to 200k killed.
300k is the estimate.
I don't know what exactly Trump has in mind but I think the key factor is giving Gazans citizenship in an Arab country. They can keep the land if, for example, Egypt agrees to annex it.
Trump is explicitly suggesting that the land be cleared out of Palestinians and granted to Israeli settlers. This would (at best) be similar to the trail of tears for Cherokee - a displaced people forced to relocate to some low value (likely desert) portion of Egypt and leaving everything built by their culture behind.
This would still meet the definition of a genocide even if no one died (and people would assuredly die in the process).
Or wait hear this one out: They get their own country called Palestine and keep living on their own land.
giving Gazans citizenship in an Arab country. They can keep the land
Wow naive. Ever heard of syria and lebanon?
https://mepei.com/greater-israel-an-ongoing-expansion-plan-for-the-middle-east-and-north-africa/
Easy there cowboy the mask is slipping
Come on, just a little ethnic cleansing will solve the conflict, can't you see?
The land itself is a huge factor to the Palestinians.
"End"?? More like export. Why do you think Lebanon is part of the mess Israel creates on the regular?
You a fool if you think so. Resistance groups will start operating and attacking Israel from egypt. Egyptian week economy can't sustain the coming of 2 millions more people. Also egypt admistrated gaza before it didn't turn well
Resistance groups already operate out of Egypt...
Have Egypt annex it?
All that would change is that now Israel periodically raids across the Egyptian border to attack Hamas forces in Gaza.
Israel is going to annex Egypt.
Egypt is a lot harder of a target than Gaza. Also Egypt can't. By international treaty they have to stay West of the Suez Canal. They tried to shut it down once and the entire world agreed that meant they lost the ability to physically control both banks.
Egypt's current government is pretty good at suppressing opposition. Generally that's not a good thing but it does mean that Egypt can probably handle Hamas.