First. I don't think I've ever seen an indy that would allow a payment after. Always best to just pay first right off the bat so they feel comfortable and know you are solid.

I used to see just indy escorts for a few years when I first started, but burned out on the prices after a few years as it seemed everyone was raising their asking price. And frankly the service was starting to decline in my experiences also. Not sure why exactly, as I am respectful and tip well. But during those years I did see a few women who were early twenties, and one 18 year old and two 19 years olds. All of those younger ladies were a ton of fun, I still think about them from time to time.

Decided to try AMP's a few years ago and I go to them 98% of the time now, with only the occasional escort from PD or STG or someplace else.

I've seen a few super cute and young MT's. There is one shop near me that will have one super young/cute girl, usually around 24 or 25 I would guess, and one older. Never more than two girls working at this place. The younger girls always seem to rotate out after about 3 months I'd guess. That shop and one other are my go to places if I really want to spend time with a younger girl in her twenties. Some of them have been fantastic, just super fun and friendly, easy to get along with, etc. All the other shops have older women. Nothing wrong with older, some of them are amazing and I love seeing them.

I did stay in contact with one younger gal after she retired. Her and I will text on occasion. Earlier this year she did message me and asked me if I wanted a session, she needed money as she had gone back to school. So I just invited her over to my house. I trust her and have known her for awhile now. It turned out really good. And I like having that option to see her even though she's retired. I get along well with her. She lives about 30 minutes from me now, so not that far away also.

Younger girls are the minority, but they are out there. It is a blast to see a new one, it's just not that often.

Regarding places that have been busted being crossed off your list, do you feel that they will likely be a target of LE again?

There were about 4 or 5 parlors in my area busted over 5 years ago at least, they all reopened rather quickly. Some under new names. But I've been to all of those spots. There are about 25 parlors within no more than 15 minutes drive of me.

I went to two on July 5th. The first one in the late morning. Parking lot was full but I went in anyway to check it out. There is one gal in particular who does everything I like, so figured I'd give it a shot as I really wanted to see her. Four girls working and a one hour wait, so I left.

Went to one on the other side of town. I had been wanting to check it out anyway, as they have two new girls working there now. It was mellow and relaxed, I had a great time. I asked her if it was busy on the 4th, she said "Not at all. Not busy today either".

So kind of a coin toss I guess. Some places busy, others not so much.

I wonder that also, how normal is it? I'm familiar of course with people kind of burning out on each other in a marriage, and the sex goes out the window and they either get divorced or settle into a different kind of partnership I guess. But I was actually kind of shocked to hear these women talk the way they did. It was so hostile and dismissive. It was ugly.

I'm just guessing, but one of the guys does not seem like someone who does not have sex. He makes a lot of money at his job and I suspect he may be seeing escorts or have something on the side. Like why would he just accept one blowjob a year? That's absurd. He does well at his job, pays for everything. I feel like he gets some on the side and is discreet about it. Again, I'm just guessing there.

None of them have any idea I go to parlors and pay for sex with asian women of various ages. So maybe it's the same for him.

The other guy seems totally spent. Just burned out. I really can't imagine he'll go on like that once their kid graduates and moves out. I feel like he will snap eventually.

I think you should cut your losses and move on personally. I have a parlor near me that is therapeutic only. I tried out a few of the gals, one of them did an absolutely erotic massage, she got as close as humanly possible to my balls without actually touching them, massaging all around them and all around my inner thighs. I was about as hard as one can get and exposed, I assumed it was a DIY situation, but the minute I started to touch myself she backed up and shook her head No.

I went back a 2nd time thinking maybe I wasn't following along correctly, but it was the same deal. I tipped her modestly. I would have tipped more if I had got myself off or of course if she had got me off. Regardless, she seemed totally fine with the tip amount. But I will not be returning. It's odd, it almost like she was seeing if she could make me cum just from touch without touching my cock or balls if that makes sense. I'm really not sure what her thinking is.

She'd be great for a warm up to a 2nd actual erotic release massage! But I moved on from her. Sounds like your situation may be similar.

I plan on going to one on the 5th. I also wondered if they will be more busy on the 4th of July, as well as the weekend. I live in a touristy area and the weather is nice right now so I imagine so. Guess I'll find out soon enough! I'l report back here after I've gone.

Personally, I think she (the 3rd woman I mentioned) hates her husband, or at the least resents him. I've kept in touch with all of these people to varying degrees over the years, but for whatever reason a bunch of us have never gotten together. Anyway, I had heard the way she talks about her husband before. I think she resents him for getting her pregnant. A mutual friend once asked her if she had thought about divorce and she apparently replied with "Nope, we are locked in now". Meaning they had the kid now so she thought they could not separate.

I think she uses the "no sex" thing as a way to get back at him, as messed up as that sounds. I ran into him about 5 or 6 years ago and he seemed pretty burned out back then also. I barely talked to him at this get together, but he did not seem well. I'm not certain why anyone would want to live like that. Honestly, I think he will reach his breaking point and leave her. Maybe after the kid graduates high school, but there is no way he is going to go on like that forever, IMO.

Just a quick note, I'm not implying all women are like these old friends of mine. I was just shocked frankly in the moment.

The majority of massages I've had have been great, good or at least decent, but I know what you mean, a bad one can be brutal. I've not had many of those but they are awful.

I used to see a woman at a local AMP for FS. The sex was good, not my top ten of all time, but certainly good. But honestly the main reason I went to see her was the massage after. It was incredible. I don't know what was going on with her technique but it was so mesmerizing it put me to sleep half the time. Just intensely relaxing and soothing. I was depressed when she moved!

Regarding table showers, I wish there was even one in my area. I have about 20 parlors I rotate between near me, and none have TS. When I went out of state last year on business I went to a few AMPs and I finally got to experience them, what a blast! It felt like a treat.

Just a small follow up to this, I went and saw this woman again and asked her a few more questions. She said she could work someplace else, but it's hard to find a job at another parlor and she already knows how things work at this AMP so she stays. I had asked if they all sleep there at the shop because I have seen fold up beds in the corners of two of the rooms. She said they all live together in an apartment close to the shop. She said that was difficult, working together all day, then all living together. She said one of the girls steals money and food constantly.

She also mentioned the boss put in extra surveillance cameras at the shop so they are constantly being watched. I did notice some of the cameras when I had walked in, more of them than I had spotted before. It made me wonder if it was for their safety or for control, frankly.

She told me how one of the girls entered the U.S. through Mexico. When I got home I googled it, sure enough, many people coming to America from China illegally go through Mexico first. I was not aware of that.

Maybe I opened up a can of worms in a way by asking, but the curiosity got the best of me.

Fantastic story! Thanks for writing it out

It's difficult to decide sometimes. Often it's just what I'm in the mood for that day. I do love trying new places also though, so there is that option

I get excited when I see bad reviews from women on google for places I have not tried yet, I agree, it's a great sign. I just drove by one of my semi regular places a few days ago and saw a woman walking up to the front door, I suspect she has no idea what goes on there. One of my favorite spots has only one woman that offers extras, it's 95% legit, every time I go to see her I get an odd look from one of the female customers in the lobby, I just smile.

There are no AAMP's in my area unfortunately. But there are quite a few AMP's that I frequent. There are also a handful of Indie ladies that advertise on STG, PD, Craigslist and BP. I wish there were more though, there are not that many.

I don't really mind a sensual massage that leaves me frustrated. There is something to be said for an hour of teasing like that. However, if I am trying a place for the first time, or planning on going to a place that I know does not offer extras, I always have a 2nd place in mind I visit immediately after and the pop is always amazing by then.

Low rise, 100%

You know, I actually do like the language barrier. We are basically communicating on a different level, and it works. There are times with certain women when it's frustrating, but we just use the translate app on the phone then. Overall, I am okay with the way we communicate without speaking.