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Trump-nominated federal judge has halted the removal of the Reconciliation Monument in Arlington National Cemetery, which the cemetery indicated Saturday would otherwise take place by week's end. While the iconoclasts have been momentarily restrained, the fate of the historic monument, also ca.....
I interpret the inscription to be paying tribute to the soldiers of the confederacy, essentially traitors. Rip it down, but do it very very carefully. They better be damn sure they're not going to disturb resting heroes.
I have no idea what to do here. All I know is that it's going to be a shit show if I don't do something.
Can you guys be civil? This is a monument to unification, not rebellion.
Fuck it, consider this a warning to everyone who comments here, do not call for violence. Do not pretend the confederacy was good. Slavery and war crimes are bad. Those who comment otherwise will get the ban hammer.
So clearly you’re going to support its removal, because we are a union now and we can replace it with another thing celebrating how great our union is now and not celebrating some of the darkest times in our country’s history.
Let’s see some support for the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and not this “it’s about unification” traitor crap you’re saying now.
If keeping this post up is “pro-conservative” and “anti-left” then you’re making a bold statement you can’t just wash away with that “slavery is bad” lip service. We know what you are.
It's not celebrating the confederacy, it already is celebrating how great our union is now ("Now" being when it was put up). Did you read the article?
And the "pro-conservative/anti-left" angle is that it's literally conserving a part of our history, the reunification, and the left are the ones trying to push for the destruction of monuments. Not really what I meant by pro-conservative, but it still counts.
I did notice that the issue you had with the confederacy was that it was a rebellion, and not the slavery. You repeated rebellion/traitor over several sentences, you didn't even mention slavery. Is rebellion worse than slavery, in your opinion?
Clyde stressed that the memorial is exempt from the removal requirement because it "does not honor nor commemorate the Confederacy and that it commemorates reconciliation and nation unity." Additionally, "the Naming Commission's authority explicitly prohibits the desecration of grave sites."
I think people forget the confederacy was mainly democrats and many of the people who fought in the war, did so for their state and not the politics. Lee said that had Virginia stayed in the union, he would have fought for the union. Grant owned slaves.
People want to pretend everyone fought for or against slavery and that simply is not true on either side. It was a complicated time in our history but I do think we should honor the dead soldiers as part of reconciliation.
I don't mind the base renamings since most of them were shitty generals and that alone should prevent a base from being named after them.
People want to pretend everyone fought for or against slavery and that simply is not true on either side. It was a complicated time in our history but I do think we should honor the dead soldiers as part of reconciliation.
But that's true of everything everywhere. Even Trump/Biden support is complicated and uniformly full-throated on both sides.
There's still question of why you would represent national unity and reconciliation by praising the losers of a conflict. It's not like we recognize the NCAA champion every year with a player from the losing team. That argument just sounds like sophistry.
While the commission considered alternatives to removal, including adding signage to explain the context of the memorial, the group ultimately decided that "contextualization was not an appropriate option," it said in its report.
I would prefer that myself. I think it's important to remind people what the Democrats did. I get the Democrats want to hide their history but it keeps their current actions in context since it aligns with their past.