Why wait for Microsoft to catch up with what we've been doing for decades?
Why wait for Microsoft to catch up with what we've been doing for decades?
Why wait for Microsoft to catch up with what we've been doing for decades?
Get Plasma, a modern, fully functional, clean, privacy-respecting, non-intrusive operating system now, regardless from where you live and ditch Windows for good.
I love Linux and the community surrounding it. I love the flexibility, the privacy and the way Debian lets me choose my desktop environment at login.
But all of us know why people still use windows. It's because you don't have to install four different distros until you find one that detects your Bluetooth mouse.
Let's not kid ourselves.
That hasn't been true in a long long long long time and you damn well know it.
Two weeks ago is not a long long long long time in my book. Lenovo ThinkPad silent mouse and a ThinkPad X13 Gen2. Fedora: no. Ubuntu: surprisingly no. I forget which one I tried next before Debian finally detected it. Do you want to talk about fingerprint readers working out of the box?
Also, if you live outside of Europe, you'll be waiting very long.
That's why my registy moved to france
Tbh. I don't really mind this ad. :) Non-profit? Ethical software? More people should use it
Not an Ad. PSA.
advertising /ăd′vər-tī″zĭng/ noun The activity of attracting public attention to a product or business, as by paid announcements in the print, broadcast, or electronic media.
Why can’t it be both? Advertising isn’t necessarily always a negative.
Been wondering about jumping ship to Linux after I got some hands on experience through the Steam Deck, but I hear that they don't have the same wide compatibility with various Hardware, plus there are a lot of programs you can't get.
If I want Clip Studio Paint, be able to play games with anti cheat AND be able to stream comfortably with OBS and the XLR microphones I have... Can I reasonably expect to be able to do all these things without a hitch?
Have been trying Linux Mint on a spare laptop as a complete N00b. Can't get a huion screen tablet to work, nor an older xp non-screen one. Only option I've found for software is Krita (which isn't bad, actually), but no CSP.
Couldn't get a controller to work properly either without having to install some stuff via command line / terminal, which I wasn't comfortable doing (I commented about having to do this on another post elsewhere and some guy was like super aggressive about how I didn't need to, and was lying apparently... 🤷 )
Other than that, it's a been a pretty smooth experience. That's not sarcasm, its genuinely been interesting experience poking about and giving it a go. May just not be ready for my use case yet.
Hardware support is pretty damn good now, but may require some research beforehand to ensure you get a system with no driver gotchas. Honestly, I have more trouble with driver setup on Windows than on Linux these days. That said, I won't buy a computer that comes with any incompatibilities, so your experience may vary.
Gaming is easy on Linux now (assuming your system is set up properly) thanks to Steam's Linux compatibility layer, which is built with WINE. They also have it on the Steam Deck, so you've actually probably used it already, you just didn't know.
The only sticking point is Clip Studio Paint. Apparently it can be set up using WINE, but it's not going to be as good as a native experience. Or at least, that would be my guess.
Clip Studio Paint
Maybe OP should try Krita. From what I read on the CSP site, Krita has everything CSP has and then some: comic module, manga module, animations module, hundreds of brushes and effects,... the works. It also works fine with all the main art hardware. XP Pen even sponsors on of the contributors and their tablets work flawlessly out of the box.
Eidt: Krita also works in Windows so OP can try it before making up their mind.
@closetfurry @kde Please be slightly more specific regarding "anti-cheat". Do you play competitive shooter games? If yes, then you're probably out of luck for those unfortunately :(
Correct there. Not super competitive as a person, so I play casually for fun
@closetfurry For Clip Studio Paint, Krita might be a very good alternative (and it also work on Windows)
For games, anti cheats are indeed still a huge pain :(
You generally need to get software and hardware that is compatible with your operating system and processor architecture. It’s true that the most used platforms will have the best support, but you have that problem with any OS.
And it’s also not like games with anti cheat generally don’t work with Linux. Proton+Steam does support Valve Anti-Cheat, Easy Anti-Cheat and BattlEye. It’s just that developers have to explicitly enable Linux support for EAC and BattlEye.
@[email protected] @[email protected] "We turned your computer into a platform designed to bombard you with ads, full of useless bloatware, a system designed to pigeon hole you into using and paying for Microsoft products, which is unsafe to connect to the internet without an antivirus and which will break every time we force an update on you." = What Microsoft would say if they were honest describing Windows!
How will people download chrome?
Microsoft Store lets you download some browsers last I checked. You can also use
wingetwhich is also preinstalled in Windows.@elxeno @kde
Chocolatey. https://community.chocolatey.org/packages/GoogleChromeFirefox, preferably. Also done via Chocolatey. Web browsers for getting a software install is so stringy.
@[email protected] @[email protected] I use #gnulinux and KDE, now #kdeplasma since "I don't remember when" years, before the existence of #fedora.
I use it at work, home, to play videogames, for everything, and I can only recommend them. Step forward, respect yourself, take back your freedom and give them a chance.You complain about this and then throw an actual ad into people's faces
Plasma is a desktop environment and NOT a OS. Might want to know whet you are talking about before posting.
You are right. Also, a desktop environment, at least from an end user's perspective, is as part of the OS as a kernel, terminal, and its associated tools. We are just using the language that a non-techie can understand and act upon.
Either way, "operating system" is a woolly and ambiguous term that is hard to define precisely and changes meanings depending on who you ask. The common denominator in common non technical English seems to be "software that allows you to manage you hardware and applications". If that is so, yep, Plasma fits the bill.
@[email protected] @[email protected] I wiped my drive and installed Linux on my primary deskyop the day I saw the first leaked screenshots of windows 11.
Never regretted it. And never going back.
@[email protected] @[email protected] Using Gnome 45. Absolute adore it's out of the box polish. But yeah, Linux > Mac >>>>>>> Windows
@[email protected] @[email protected]
Plasma=operating system ???!!!???🤔
Can you define "operating system" in common, non-technical English, as to an end user?
@SanchoPanza @kde @[email protected] Sure it's not a full operating system but Plasma and the KDE Frameworks and apps are a large portion of the user space, has a lot of hardware integration and is that the user interact with not with the kernel directly.
@carlschwan @[email protected] @[email protected]
So if we pull out the kernel/Linux, we can run hardware and applications with Plasma/KDE?
@SanchoPanza @kde @[email protected] Also it's way easier to communicate to non Linux users that Plasma is an operating system than a desktop environnement has Windows and macOS have no concept of desktop environnement.
Or do you call macOS aqua?
@[email protected] @[email protected] I already use Plasma 5.27 on Debian GNU/Linux :bunhdhappy:
Though I cannot wait for Plasma 6!@[email protected] @[email protected]
Even though I don't prefer KDE Plasma as my desktop environment, I support this due to being #LibreSoftware and considering what it opposes.
@[email protected] @[email protected] A friendly reminder that Plasma is a DE and not an OS!
Loving your work btw!
@[email protected] @[email protected] I wish all those proclamations were achievable without a boat load of tradeoffs:
@tnypxl @[email protected] @[email protected]
Like what?
@[email protected] @[email protected] KDE, I enjoy the software + the cute artwork, but please don't be rude to Microsoft!! They also include Linux and they like Linux too, so you and Microsoft should be friends :3
@01adrianrdgz @[email protected] @[email protected]
Take it from an old-timer: Microsoft would crush KDE without a second thought if it ever grew beyond what they considered acceptable in the desktop/end user market share.
All the MS ❤️ Linux is at best for servers only, not anything that can benefit the common people. KDE aims for the common people.
At worst it is PR bullshit ( ⬅️ it's this one).
@Bro666 @[email protected] @[email protected] oh that's bad :c I'm sorry for misunderstanding, I think both organizations should be fair to each other that's all, thank you so much for clarifying!! c:
@[email protected] @[email protected] Never heard of Plasma, nor am I in linux ecosystem yet, but from brief googling Plasma telemetry and developer attitude towards it is concerning
https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/f2bg69/kde_plasma_518_comes_with_builtin_telemetry_optin/
Been using it for over a year now and there's just one slider for telemetry that sends them anonymous desktop/KDE apps usage data, and you can limit how much you wanna send them. And i personally haven't heard of any controversy surrounding that. Also its opt in unlike windows.
The telemetry is transparent, you literally know everything that gets sent. You don't even have to read the source code, it deadass tells you. Unlike Windows.
Yep, and it's opt-in so if you've never turned it on explicitly, then it's off.
Seriously though, KDE's slider that lets you adjust how much / how little data to send (if any) is probably the best implementation of opt-in telemetry that I've seen in a while.
@shved @[email protected] @[email protected] Sorry, but this is a pretty opinionates post about a simple feature. Yes, KDE has Telemetry options. But these are entirely opt in, so unless you explicitely choose to send data you will never send data. The data that is being sent is fully transparent, as we have access to the source code. I belief it is mostly used for interface decisions (such as what window sizes are people using). So I cannot see the point.
@shved @[email protected] @[email protected] is opt-in, not opt-out.
No telemetry gets collected unless you explicitly give permission (and they don't nag or try to trick you into giving it). Overall, KDE is incredibly good for privacy