Showerthoughts @lemmy.world delitomatoes @lemm.ee 8mo ago

Applicants probably spend more time skimming job openings than Managers spend skimming through CVs

Much easier to reject bad CVs. On the other hand every job post is the same and you have to check Glassdoor and Crunchbase before applying to a potential bad company

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Literally yes. I have reviewed over 10,000 resumes between my last two positions. Our current posting has 3,600 applicants.

Should we close the posting? Probably, but we don't. Whenever I have time I sift through the resumes. Most don't get looked at for even 10 seconds. Cover letters don't get read. Stop including cringe things like "Microsoft Word" before PHP and Python in your skills, it makes me think you have nothing better to offer besides what I've read so far, and I'll skip reading the rest of your resume because of it.
- We can't, the filter before you makes sure word is listed in proficiencies, and if not, rejects the applicant even if they wrote Word themselves.
- You're what's wrong with job searching
  
  Did you want their fulltime job to be reading thousand of resumes or did you want them to be an actual manager?
  
  It's a broken system with no solution in sight.
  
  But yeah let's blame this worker who has thousands of resumes that they have to figure out how to review asap.
- What if the person is REALLY GOOD with Microsoft Word, though?
  
  Then they applied for the wrong job. I haven't used a word processor at all in many years. Power point is (saddly) important, but no word processor. When I write docs markdown or restructured text is what i'm looking for, since both can link directly to the code.
  
  Word
- Yo you're probably alright but i seriously hate you rn.
- So basically, you read their job titles and a couple bullet points? Maybe the skill section?
  
  I'm job hunting, and I've just switched to a strategy where I focus on those things being amazing and tailored to the job.
  
  Skill section, then I skim bulletpoints if I haven't binned it yet. Anything that passes the bulletpoint section goes to a check-later pile, which I revisit and choose who to interview
  
  IT here, I skim the titles, company, dates, and look at a couple bullet point. If things look good I’ll read the full doc. I don’t hundreds or thousands of apps though since I’m not offering a remote or hybrid position
- This is why it is soooo important to network. I'm far more likely to read a resume given to me by a friend or someone I know verses a random resume that lands in my inbox.
  
  "Networking" increasingly just means nepotism.
  
  This thread is just so sensitive it seems. I have been on the shit end of the stick this year with losing two jobs and I still agree with so many of the recruiters in this thread and your comment. I don’t want to network, but sadly that does increase the likelihood of getting my resume looked at. These people need to understand that people who are looking at resumes are also working, if your qualifications are in the details instead of being upfront then I’m sorry, no one will spend longer time to look at your resume compared to thousands of other resumes.
- I know you're getting slammed but honestly people say they can "use Microsoft Word" but I bet 70% of people in an interview/test setting (ie no googling) could not create a dynamic paragraph that changes its content based on a dropdown and then print the paragraph but not the drop-down.
- Use a form attached to a spreadsheet FTLoG! What a finicky way to dunce your job!
- Also stop using those terrible templates that look someone crashed into Adobe InDesign one day.
  
  The hate you got from your comment is really coming from edgy people with no real professional or leadership experience who just hope and pray that everything is like an episode of the Smurfs or something.
If you're spending a lot of time on applications, you're doing something wrong.

You find out if it's a good company during the interview. Trying to figure it out before hand is like running a background check on someone before swiping on tinder.

Your resume should be ready, your cover letter ready with just a few sentences to swap per job app, and the entire thing should take like 2-5 minutes, max.
- I have to disagree. Job postings straight up lie. My husband got to his second interview at a place before they revealed everything from the posting and first interview was a lie and it was a door to door sales job.
  
  Or they'll lie about the responsibility or the pay of the job and he won't learn that until deep into the interview process, which is costly in time, and stress, not to mention dressing up.
  
  I just recently got to the third interview for a software engineering job. 5 minutes in, they asked about my requirements for compensation and I gave a conservative range for a senior engineer role. They said "thanks for your time" and ended the interview. I spent 4 hours total on this to be told my comp request was too high. So fucking sick of this bullshit
  
  You don't qualify a lead before talking to the person. That's rule 1 of sales efficiency.
  
  It's far better to waste an hour once figuring out a job posting was a waste of time than to waste 5 minutes 200 times finding out job postings are a waste of time.
  
  You vet them once they ask you for an interview/phone screen. Vetting takes a lot more time than applying. So apply, then if it matters, check them out.
Nowadays yeah. I miss the days I went through the job listings in the two major newspapers and sent off resumes and was done for the week.
That makes sense as there are a limited number of jobs. However, recruiters do a lot of work to get more applicants to apply and they often are the ones doing initial interviews

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