Jill Stein launches 2024 bid as Green Party candidate
Jill Stein launches 2024 bid as Green Party candidate
Jill Stein announced a surprise presidential bid Thursday, seeking the Green Party’s 2024 nomination. Stein, a physician who ran against Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in 2016 as the Green Party&…
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Until we get ranked choice voting or similar the Green Party is a joke with zero chance of election. Voting for them only helps Republicans at this point in time.
If less enthusiastic Republican voters have a chance to vote for a neutral party instead of voting for a shitshow, then how is it helping Republicans?!
Lol it's not Republicans voting for the green party, the green party has only ever siphoned votes from the Democratic candidates.
the votes belong to the voters, not to the parties. democrats need to earn their votes just like everyone else.
The GOP is attempting to destroy democracy, the Dems are not. The GOP are trying to subjugate me as a queer/trans person and POC as well, the Dems are not. The GOP are removing human rights from us, the Dems are not. The Dems are trying to pass green energy legislation, gun control laws, and more while the GOP are blocking it.
Those are some pretty good god damn reasons.
under no pretext.
voting for Democrats facilitates fascism.
So you read all of that and you could only muster an emotional response.
I think that says all that needs to be said. You'd rather enable our democracy to be destroyed (and you know, make it harder to do anything about fascism later) and vote in a way that will make you feel a little better about yourself while it goes into the void.
I stated a fact. I don't know what you mean about emotion.
Stating a fact and making up a fact are 2 very different things.
what I said is true.
voting for fascist does make it harder to get fascist out of a power. that's why I don't vote for democrats.
we don't have a democracy and we never have.
Yeah see how that turns out if the republicans win next election. They facilitate fascism by being the only alternative to actual fascist politicians. They certainly aren't perfect, but seriously how do you think it plays out if enough morons like you vote for Putin apologist Stein? What do you think the end result will be?
do you think that you're going to win voters by calling them morons?
Democrats are full fascist. they don't just facilitated by being fascism light.
Just trying to help:
Neoliberalism was an attempt to save both the state and capitalism. Capitalism, however, cannot be rehabilitated. It will not save us from totalitarianism or state-sponsored genocide. Capital can absorb any product, service, or practice (including government practice) into itself and then reproduce itself. It is always primed for, always flirting with, the spectre of fascism. Source
Genocide Joe isn’t earning your vote? /s
You're thinking of the "libertarian" party.
She's a democrat choice not a republican choice.
Source: voted for her in 2016
if i would vote for jill stein or cornel west (i mean, i have to be honest, it's nice to have choices) or the libertarian or no candidate at all, how do any of those votes help republicans?
the only vote that helps republicans is a vote for a republican.
Wrong. Dead fucking wrong. Due to our current shitty system the only parties with any chance of winning are Dems or GOP, every vote that doesn't go to the Dems is another point the GOP has over them. If you don't vote for Dems you're facilitating fascism. Simple as.
I don't like our choices but we don't have the option to be fucking picky right now, there's fascists at the door and they're working hard to ruin our lives.
voting for the lesser evil will only serve to guarantee that you will forever be voting for the lesser evil and that you will reach the same evil that the alternative raced towards, but slower.
Thats really poetic but observe our choices in reality in relation to the systems we built to usher them in. You don't cut your parachute just because you're falling anyway.
My god, what a stupid take.
The lesser evil is by definition the better choice! If you refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils, you are effectively choosing the greater evil. It does not get any stupider than that.
If you refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils,
you are choosing not to vote for evil.
you are choosing not to vote for evil.
And allowing the greater evil to win.
in the trolley scenario, i don't touch the lever. you can choose to be a murderer, but i won't.
In the trolley scenario, you chose to let 6 people die. Neither choice makes you a murderer. But one choice causes much more harm than the other.
flipping the switch makes you a murderer.
This is exactly the kind of situation the trolley problem was invented to illustrate... and I've never seen anyone fail at it so badly with such a weird take.
You'll allow the greater evil to happen because you don't want to have any part or any responsibility in helping a lesser evil happen. But you do have responsibility, because you do have a choice. In the trolley problem, f you never knew about the lever, you couldn't be asked to pull it or not. In the election problem, if you can't vote you have no responsibility. But the trolley problem states you know about the lever, and in the election scenario, you do have a vote. So you are involved no matter what. And that means you're just as guilty as the person who acted; only your action resulted in more deaths than the person who acted either way. Yours was the worst possible choice.
Try flipping the words from evil to good. The greater evil is worse, and the lesser evil is better. Therefore, you are choosing the worse scenario rather than the better one. It's ridiculously absurd.
The fascists at the door were invited in by democrat enablers
voting for Democrats facilitates fascism.
Fascism is, by it's definition, a right wing ideology, not a left wing ideology.
It's OK to admit when you don't know something. We can help!
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095811414
"An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization."
Basic math. The stuff most of us learned as children.
these aren't magic phrases that change my vote for one person into a vote for another person.
No shit, it's quite obvious no one is going to change your mind and I'm not trying to. I answered the posed question in a public forum. Turns out other people also read these comments.