What do you use for cloud storage and why?
What do you use for cloud storage and why?
I've been wanting to move away from Dropbox for a long while, but I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement. Dropbox has always been super convenient and has just worked for me.
I've tried Tresoit but the low link sharing limits (2gb) and 10gb limit for files is somewhat of a deal breaker for me. I've been interested in Proton Drive for a while, but until their mac app is ready it's unusable for me.
I've also tried self-hosting a nextcloud instance (multiple times) but I've always just had too many issues with it. It's been inconsistent in actually backing up files from my mac, I've had so many file conflicts, etc. I have a truenas scale server, so if there are other self-hosted methods I should try let me know.
Currently, I'm looking at filen and sync.com, but I've heard both have their issues so I'm curious to hear everyones thoughts on them as well.
Thanks!
Self hosted Nextcloud. Immich for photos.
⚠️ Do not use the app as the only way to store your photos and videos.
immediately followed by
⚠️ Always follow 3-2-1 backup plan for your precious photos and videos!
now I don't think I'm overly bright, but that doesn't seem like advice to ignore
Weirdly enough, I didn’t say it was my only way to store anything, nor that the program stores photos at all.
It syncs the photos from my devices, the storage for those photos is on a separate server (as is the NextCloud storage) that is encrypted and backed up to Backblaze B2.
Immich is a gallery and organization app that syncs from your devices, the underlying storage is whatever you provide.
Nextcloud with Hetzner your-storageshare. ~5€/m for 1TB is hard to beat and it runs so well. I still use encryption and a few plugins like on a selfhosted instance.
This is a great option, I have used it too in the past. Since, I have switched to iCloud when they implemented e2e encryption. Seems no one else here goes that route, trust issues maybe.
I do miss versioning with iCloud.
I have proton drive too, waiting on that osx client.
ICloud with e2e could be nice. But having a mix of Linux and Windows laptops in the household it is just not possible. There simply is no Linux client for it. And last time I checked the Windows client didn't support e2e. So there goes that.
And to be completely honest I really do have trust issues with Apple (and Big Tech in general).
How do you deal with the encryption? How did you set that up? Or you encrypt on your pc and then send to hetzner?
google drive.
i pretty much sold my soul to google at this point
anyway they have my address, payment info, all of my photos since 2014, my preferences from YouTube, google maps data and since I'm using google location sharing and find my phone, they have access to my exact location at all times; and half of my payments go through google pay and I'm using android with my google account.Syncthing to my selfhosted proxmox server at home then rclone encrypted and unencrypted depending on content, to my cloud storage. Fully automtatic meanwhile.
Rclone syncs to various cloud services so the provider doesn't matter from a technical point of view.
I use a Synology NAS which I can access from everywhere as long as I have internet connection.
Yeh this is probably the quickest, simplistic and most robust way. Not the cheapest but unless you have unraid ready and know exactly what to do you'd be hard pushed to find a better solution.
I use unraid, nextcloud, Immich, Tailscale and so on . It's not set and forget.
Works well so far, is end to end encrypted, open source, and the apps are nice and solid.
Nextcloud on my own hardware
Nextcloud docker on unRAID has worked well for me on...
Android, Windows and my MacBook(s)
I use it to Auto upload photos from my phone as well as cloud storage. Shared directories with my wife and son for easy sharing.
No real issues outside a couple painful upgrades in the past .
Which docker do you use?
I run Dropbox, since they're only in cloud storage they can't really run around and sell data, if found out there would be no reason to stay for their customers. Unlike say Google and Microsoft.
I wouldn't trust a billion dollar company to not sell my datam Just sayin
You run dropbox? Impressive.
Google
With cryptomator
It's super cheap, and with cryptomator you can easily locally encrypt anything you put on there. With great iOS and Android support aswell
I'll second Cryptomator, it's relatively convenient and means I can use the free tiers of Google Drive, Dropbox, Onedrive, etc without them having a nose through all my stuff
I have started trialling mega. 20GB free.
So far so good.
One minor annoyance I have had is keepass .kdb files. You can't just open from mega android, make changes and have it auto save back to the cloud. Have to save out, edit then share back in. There is a autosync app by a third party which I have not tried.
How do you like Filen so far? I tried it out with a few directories and it felt very snappy. Plus, the .fileignore feature is phenomenal and I wish more providers would do it!
I heard when filen was first launched there were some issues with their encryption and some file loss, do you happen to know if this has largely been fixed? Thanks!
I don't use cloud storage anymore I migrated all my files to M-Disc
What is M-Disc?
Iirc theyre these expensive discs that are highly resistant to disc rot (or something along those lines) for at least 1000 years. Kinda gimmicky tbh since it still needs to be stored properly to achieve that claim and suffers from the same problems as any other optical disc (the equipment needed to read and write and still durability)
Check out YUNOhost. If you've gone off Nextcloud and just want to sync files you could simply install Syncthing and be done with it.
Mega.
Free.
50 gb. Signed up years ago.
end-to-end encrypted, client side. they claim they don't have my decryption key. But don't ask me why/how tho, since i'm not Bruce Schneier.
Nice, various, and widespread 3rd-party clients especially for Android.
Good user base. No one share sugarsync, or box.com
Reslient service, i hope. I remember i once have Copy.com account, but they closed. RIP Zippyshare, etc
Seconded. Still got my free 50GB Mega from years ago. I'm assuming they will reduce it someday but I shall use it at its fullest til that day comes.
Their clients are also source available, but I don't think many outside people check them anyway.
Azure
Sorry, but could you elaborate? Is there a specific way or thing you do to sync to azure?
Desktop and Synology back up to azure, and I have a drive letter mapped to an azure blob.
Self hosted nextcloud works great for me. There have been a lot of improvements over the last few years, handling conflicts doesn't feel as clunky and I don't really run into as many unless I'm storing git repos in my NC directory.
I'm curious, are there any ways to just not backup directories in a .gitignore type of way? I started trying out filen and this single feature is just very very compelling for me
I haven't used NC in a while but the improvements seem good at first glance!
I run it myself in a datacenter. I do basically anything and everything I want off my own hardware.
Replicated between two sites I hope? Not much of a backup if it's in one location.
I have 2 Nas builds perfectly in sync at my house. My DC hosted Nas is only media.
I'm assuming this would cost a fair bit then? Also, what do you use to sync the files from your devices to the servers?
Yeah, but I own all the hardware so that's a upside.
Truenas scale has easy rsync configurations so I do that.
Mega
I pay for it anyway since I was lucky enough to get a few accounts on a private forum where everything is shared via mega, it's very active and a great community. Only a few times I haven't found something I was looking for there, and that was quickly solved by posting a request. (The only way to join is to get personally invited. And no, I won't use my invites for randoms, don't ask).
Haven't used torrents for close to a decade now, it's nice to have basically anything easily findable with direct download from mega.
So you want to backup or do you want to file share/work together on documents?
For backup I use Spideroak for all our families computers. It did a solid job over the last four Linux laptops and MacBooks I used. I only backup the home directory and the external drive with my Photo Library.
For Cloud Storage I use OneDrive. I don’t have much to share, so this is normally enough.
I'd say like 65% backup, 35% share/collaboration. It's why this simple decision has become unnecessarily complex for me haha. I want a balance of privacy, yet I want the ease of access and user-friendliness of Dropbox.
From this thread, I think ente is partly perfect for my needs. I've been trying out filen and it's been quite good, but I might stick with Dropbox till the Proton mac app launches and see how it is.
Might end up just doing NC + storej, though. Many have said NC has improved significantly as of late so it might be worth a look at once more.
I migrated all my cloud files to M-Discs because in the near future, even if I encrypt my files with PGP before sending them to the cloud, big tech will be able to break their encryption. I don't trust any big tech.
Curious why M-disc specifically? Isn't that storage media kind of expensive for the amount of storage space you get? Plus unless every disc is getting buried in a capsule, you would still have to baby it like any other optical disc even though its more durable.
Atm a burner dropbox account with cryptomator on top. Going to see how mega works with cryptomator and hopefully that will be my replacement
Primarily on site with NextCloud for getting to my important documents via mobile.
Backups are going to Wasabi via restic but if you want to do something a little more “live”, rclone mount with Wasabi also works well, even on Windows.
As always, I suggest encrypting before putting it anywhere but your own devices.
What files from your Mac are you trying to sync to next cloud? If you have a Truenas already, why are you hosting files from your Mac instead of mapping a share directly from your Truenas into Nextcloud and working directly off of the source instead?
As for syncing photos from my phone to Nextcloud, I've had no issues over the past 3 years hosting it myself. I had one problem with a lot of conflicts where permissions on my truenas wouldn't allow nextcloud to delete them, so I had a manual cleanup process last month but that's the only problem I've had. I just switched to Truenas a few months ago from QNAP and am still learning the caveats of their very granular permissions but everything generally works about 99% of the time.
Wouldn't mapping it directly to truenas be somewhat slow especially if I'm always on the go? My Truenas server is at at home while I dorm on campus, so I'm not sure if it would work out well. Plus, I've had a lot of issues with truenas + my hardware which led to me keeping this server mostly down over the last year or so. Everything seems stable and works fairly well now, but just airing on the side of caution.
Does NC photos have tagging? Auto-tagging is why I've always been with Google Photos tbh, an alternative would be nice though.
That said, my mac is mostly code, some emulation related stuff (thus the 10 gb limit of tresoit being annoying for me), and some documents/notes. My media is already self-hosted on jellyfin which works great atm, but I have it on my dropbox as well right now.
I just pay Google $99/yr. for 2TB of storage. I have my Google Drive mapped as G: and Windows libraries mapped to folders in the Google Drive.
Super simple and cheap. I still have local backups for fast restores, and Google for cloud.
Take a look at https://www.storj.io/, their prices are pretty low