Wtf is up with people picking sides over this??? Can't we just agree that both sides are absolutely fucking awful and the ones who are gonna suffer are all the innocent people who are just trying to live their lives?
Scum like Shapiro already had an agenda to push. For him this isn't a tragedy, it's an opportunity.
I think the issue is that it IS both sides doing terrible stuff, but this is not a symmetrical war.
Asymmetrical, and Isreal has been doing their damndest to make it inevitable.
Because that would mean ambiguity and people don't like that. They want simple stories. Good guy here, bad guy there.
It’s a shit situation all around, there are no winners and no good guys in this fight.
We can do both. I think neither side has had the "moral high ground" from the very beginning of this conflict. For well over 100 years it's been both groups using the atrocity the other group has committed against them to justify their own atrocities in return.
But at the same time when you get to the very core of the issue it's palestine and the Arab population that were existing there first, and had the land forcibly colonised by the west despite the protests for the Arab league. Then had their minority and very recently migrated population steal their land to unilaterally declare independence.
Both sides are going about this the wrong way, but only one is also fighting for the wrong reasons.
This seems to be an “ESH” (everyone sucks here) situation. Yes, Hamas sucks more. But Israel isn’t far behind.
If you're keeping score isreal has for sure put more points on the board.
But Hamas does suck as much as the Israeli government, yes.
The biggest victims here? The Palestinians.
I think this whole "who is worse" paradigm is a dead-end trap. The binary right/wrong paradigm is also useless.
The reality is that you have two incompatible populations stuck on the same chunk of land, and they are not sufficiently motivated to compromise on the key issues. That's why this conflict has been an unresolvable stalemate for decades now. Sad to say, but all-out war is probably the only thing that can break the stalemate at this point.
Ben Shapiro
are you surprised
I don't understand why we see Ben Shapiro posts all the time. Why do we care what he thinks. He's irrelevant and here to make people rage. Stop engaging in his content and or sharing it with others. Let him scream into the void.
Unfortunately he’s not irrelevant, there’s motherfuckers out there who hang on his every word and then spread it like wildfire through social media. “Normies” who only have passing knowledge of the situation eat that shit up and dumbass Ben suddenly has huge power to control the narrative.
I never got into Hasan, but damn, glad to see him putting fascists into their place.
Common Hasan W. Just don't ask him about China/Taiwan or socialism vs. capitalism. Ask instead what he's wearing and driving. I jest, but Hasan is proof that being correct on leftist issues can pay well, and that's a good sign.
Oh so it's a war crime when Israel sends rockets, but like he said the very obvious murders of entire civilian families and beheading the women is totally on the same level morally and principally.
Terrorist sympathizer.
The difference is the last time Gaza got to vote was 17 years ago...
The vast majority of the residents of Gaza have never had the opportunity to vote, so blaming them for Hamas makes zero fucking sense.
It’s a war crime when Hamas kills civilians, but it’s also a war crime when Israel cuts off food, water, and electricity (and also bombs!) civilians.
Not sure what the fuck is hard to understand about that, unless your only thought is “Hurr me no like communist commentator”
No, it's not.
The tone has been set already with this thread, Israel = bad. Doesn't matter how many families these Hamas cunts kidnap and behead apparently
It can be both. Hamas can be awful at the same time Israel is awful.
Nobody is justifying the atrocities committed by one side when pointing out the atrocities committed by the other.
The bloodshed needs to end either way.
