[DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] LOKI S02E01 - Ouroboros
[DISCUSSION] [SPOILERS] LOKI S02E01 - Ouroboros
| EPISODE | RELEASE DATE | RUNNING TIME | CREDITS SCENE? |
|---|---|---|---|
| S02E01: Ouroboros | Oct 5th, 2023 on Disney+ | 47m | YES |
Premise:
Loki finds himself lost to time and torn, quite literally, between past, present, and future,.
Directors:
Justin Benson, Aaron Moorhead
Writers:
Eric Martin, Michael Waldron
| CAST | ||
|---|---|---|
| Tom Hiddleston | ... | Loki |
| Liz Carr | ... | Judge Gamble |
| Sophia Di Martino | ... | Sylvie |
| Gugu Mbatha-Raw | ... | Ravonna Renslayer |
| Tara Strong | ... | Miss Minutes (voice) |
| Owen Wilson | ... | Mobius |
| Ke Huy Quan | ... | O.B. |
Natalie Holt hitting it out of the park again with the music.
The one glaring flaw in the Marvel universe (even at its height) is that it doesn't have a significant musical presence. Like, here and there a scrap of music gets your ear, but it's not like Star Wars or Harry Potter where there's a nigh-universally-recognized theme. A lot of the music does the work of supporting whatever movie and show, but is otherwise forgettable.
...except on Loki. This show won the jackpot insofar as score goes.
Yeah the closest second in terms of music for me is GOTG but that’s soundtrack not score. Civil War had a good one and they brought the composer back for F&WS. But nowhere near what Natalie is doing.
I loved the warning notice in front of the temporal loom room.
"After this threshold risk of spaghettification increases 7000%”
I love that that implies there's a non-zero chance of spaghettification before crossing that threshold, too!
Mobius has some great lines this episode:
"Look, Renslayer kicked me down some steps too"
"I can't keep looking, it looks horrible"
"It looks like your being born, or dying, or both at the same time"
"What's he quality of life with no skin?"
Writing "Skin?" in the dust.I enjoyed it. Feels just like going back in the world that is Loki Season 1. I'm very curious what General Dox is actually up to. I feel like it's some backup plan she has if everything goes to shit. Looking forward to how this season plays out.
OB: You have 1 hour!
window cracks
OB: You have 5 minutes!
My only criticism is that it was disappointing that the cliffhanger from the end of last season tuned out to be kind of a fakeout.
"Ooooh, so now Loki's in a different timeline or something, and no one remembers him! Lots of possibilities here! Oh, wait, no, everything's back the way it was by the end of the episode, with almost no effort on his part."
Although, maybe there's still more to come for that plot point. I had a fair few plot complaints about Ahsoka early on, but they actually have all gotten addressed.
Yeah I thought he was at a completely different TVA in a different timeline where Kang was more evil. But no he was just in the past, and now he's back.
Martin and Waldron did some good work here! Especially when compared to the other D+ writing we’ve been getting lately…
So, obviously Loki got pulled out of the time stream to fix his immediate problems, but I can only imagine that's going to put him in a very interesting position in the bigger scheme of things.
Does this give him the ability to move around timelines without being affected by the usual TVA weapons? I imagine he can't be pruned twice...can he? Is he going to be invulnerable to some tricks Kang has up his sleeve?
It's also interesting that they probably can't repeat the process of this with others like Mobius and OB, because they had to close down access because the loom is too unstable.
being pruned is technically just being teleported back to the place at the end of time so he can probably still be affected
Hasn't he already been pruned twice? He was pruned in Season 1 and he was pruned in this episode. So twice pruned.
Wild, just last week I saw a picture of McDonald's in the 80s compared to today, so I immediately recognized the place Sylvie entered because of that creepy tree.
Thatwas so awesome. I'm a huge MCU fan but a whole bunch of series didn't scratch the itch. I loved Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk, but they didn't have quite the magic where I craved for the next episodes (which makes me realise... I miss Moon Knight so much). Now I can't wait for the next Loki episode. Writing and score are incredible, acting as well. More, I need more!
OB was awesome!
Ironic how people kept shouting at Marvel that they ignored the world-changing events of the S1 finale, but now it appears that those actually have nothing to do with the events on the main MCU timeline.
Well, the Kang we saw in Ant-Man probably didn’t exist until they killed He Who Remains.
I subscribe to the theory that the Conqueror is actually a younger He Who Remains at an earlier point in his timeline, before he succeeded in achieving total control by culling all of his other variants.
And the multiverse stuff is absolutely related to the Sacred Timeline being unshackled. The TVA would have pruned all those other timelines before they caused incursions. But they stopped pruning, and we get What If...?, No Way Home, and Multiverse of Madness, plus everything else to come.
When Sylvie finds Loki it looks like he is pruned from the back and we don't see Sylvie do the pruning. Is it possible someone else pruned him? Ravona?
I've seen a lot of people speculating it is Loki pruning himself
it definitely is future himself. NR says it will be the huge reveal in the finale, but my guess is we'll actually see this happen within next two episodes tops
Has to be. Silvie opens the elevator and says something along the lines of "there you are" so she was looking for him there not realising this isn't the current time Loki. And since its the future the future Loki knows he has to prune himself in order for everything to happen.
That's the obvious assumption, which makes me hope it's someone else entirely.
Loki Season 2 Discussion links
Am mildly disappointed that it seems like Kang isn't going to be recast. On the other hand, good cinema so far, and I'm excited to see what comes next.
They should bring Terrence Howard to play him.
“Next time, baby!”
They shot Loki S2 before Majors was arrested. Even if they wanted to recast, post production ain't fixing that.
Eh, it worked for Kevin Spacey in All the Money in the World.
Has the domestic abuser been recasted?
Alleged, and no. His trial is in a few weeks.
Maybe, they keep pushing it back over and over.
They shot this Show before he was arrested. So no, at least not for Loki S2.