Saving this for later when a need to compile a linux kernel arises.
Had to do it for uni.
Building and compiling is really easy. Kernel programming in Linux, on the other hand, is a nightmare with how bad the documentstion is.
Saving this for later when a need to get massive levels of frustration, so massive that I will be punching my screen, arises. (Can't wait!)
Wow am I so old that this isn’t a normal thing anymore?
I've been using Linux as my main desktop/laptop operating system since 2018 and I've never compiled a kernel, if that's any indication. I've never needed to I guess. Might be fun to tinker with sometime but I don't think any Linux noobs would be inclined to compile their own kernel these days.
I have been using 10+ distros and never compiled pretty much any regular package I use daily
I’ve been using Linux since RedHat 3.0.3 and when Gentoo first came around I was rebuilding kernels left and right. Then with Arch I continued it trying to get the absolute best performance I could out of old hardware. Nowadays I float back and forth between Windows and MacOS (ease of use) but still have several headless Linux systems in the house I can mess around in. It’s been years since I’ve compiled a kernel from scratch but I’m sure it’s even more user friendly now.
Most of the time the kernel is built by distro packaging these days, you're really only down and dirty with it if you need to patch the source yourself.
I haven't done it in ages, but from what I remember, there wasn't anything much to it.
Nah it’s pretty straight forward. Just telling the compiler what to compile in for your situation and then compile. Sure you can compile in kernel modules you will never see in binary builds but in today’s hardware it’s nearly pointless.
I did a Minix kernel once if that counts. no need to lay all the praise on me at once, folks.
So you "make config" once and then you just tweak it from time to time! I used to run make config until I discovered xconfig (when X was xfree86) and settled on menuconfig.
I was still using menuconfig on Gentoo until around five years ago. OK I still have one or two Larry's lying around doing useful stuff but generally I just copy the old kernel config to the new one and compile away with genkernel.
make config did take a while back in the day. You literally run through the entire kernel's options one by one: y/n/m for drivers. I haven't done that since 2.0.x days. Then you forget to sort out lilo and reach for the boot floppy. No I don't miss those days.
make nconfigis the new hotness in a terminal, it's an updated ncurses based menuconfig. When I'm rolling my kernel packages forward after an update I usually just runmake oldconfigormake olddefconfigto generate an up to date config based on my previous version, I only get into nconfig or scripted config changes if I need to configure something by hand.
Like, follow the kernels built-in compile guide?
Nice timing -- been trying to figure out a way to enable gpu support on the Orange pi zero 3 those last few days and this guide might help me w/ it.
Flashbacks of Gentoo 🙃
omg me too... a much nerdier friend of mine told me to install Gentoo on my first custom build back in the early aughts. printed out the guide and spent over a week 24/7 compiling everything with an athlon 64 3500+... and had never used Linux before this... good times, man.
I am wondering if this really makes the system tailor your hardware better, with all its potential. Has anyone done measurements?
If you want a system wide performance boost you need to rebuild everything rather than just the kernel. You'll typically see a 10-15% performance boost by building everything for a more modern target like
x86-64-v3(Skylake era) overx86-64. Again, that's rebuilding the entire OS - all packages - not just the kernel. I think phoronix has some benchmark numbers on this from a couple of years ago if you want to dig into it. On Arch there's an unofficial repo that builds everything for the-v3target and people seem to have good results. I think RHEL and/or Fedora were considering moving the entire distro tov2orv3but I haven't paid attention to how that turned out.Edit: here's the arch user effort for -v3, it looks like all of the harting.dev links are dead: https://somegit.dev/ALHP/ALHP.GO
