Destroying your public transit infrastructure speedrun.

Buys an SUV because of “safety”
- immediately gets into a roll over accident
Usually it is same, but with six car lanes

Minimum parking standards desroyed density in downtown cores and were basically based off of no real numbers or data. The subsidizing of private vehicle ownership fueled the destruction.

You don't love acres of pavement just sitting there taking up space and providing no value??? How can you not appreciate beauty???? /s
- The funny thing is that some guy i worked for complained a lot about not having a lot of parking in the middle of a dense city.
  I said yeah maybe but do you want it to look like some american parking city?
  And he was like yes, i'm going there next month.
  
  Mmmkay i guess

Friendly reminder that rowhouses exist and essentially break reality with how they provide the best of both worlds.

I fucking love rowhouses.

"envy of the world" lol

New York was pretty well envied around the world.

Don't dense urban cities require landlords?

No, a lot of people own condos. And even if you intentionally destroyed dense, urban areas for the sake of endless suburban sprawl, you would still have people needing or wanting to rent some of those houses. Students, people anticipating moving after a few years, lower-income folks, etc.

Cities Beautiful Pick one

Cities are noxious tumors on an otherwise beautiful planet.

- Why not both? Have proper zoning laws in place and suddenly you'll find the balance. Kyoto for example is just amazing.
- I don't disagree, doesn't mean they're not ugly.
The entire point is they don't have to be that way. You are quite literally missing the entire critique. The US's focus on cars and suburbia make it that way.
- Without cars and suburbs cities would still be filled with soulless concrete and steel monoliths and trash
You would prefer urban sprawl? Humans gotta live somewhere, density is ecologically the best way to do it.
- NIMBYs think if they just ban density that the 8 billion people in the world who need housing will just poof and disappear.
  
  Personally, I prefer dense, walkable, transit-oriented cities so we can preserve as much nature as possible, and so the people living in cities aren't separated from nature by a sea of suburban sprawl.
- Never said that suburbs are better, I'm just disagreeing with the sentiment that cities are beautiful. I think they're ugly.
False dichotomies are fun! There's absolutely a type of beauty to a well-run, upkept city. Should everything be a city? Nope, we need green areas, probably even more green areas than cities. The two can and should coexist in harmony.
- If you think cities are beautiful you are entitled to your opinion, I just disagree. I think they're ugly
I think I'd rather have very dense population centers with intermixed accessible green spaces would be far preferable to the sprawling suburbs like you see in Texas
- I don't disagree, doesn't make them not ugly tho
Ok uncle Ted