Fairphone 5: Everything about the "fair" smartphone in advance - price, details, pictures
Fairphone 5: Everything about the "fair" smartphone in advance - price, details, pictures
No headphone jack. Real shame i won't be able to use this phone.
I simply cannot understand that decision. Am I supposed to throw away all my headphones now because of this dumb, Apple initiated fad? That big vendors like Samsung and OnePlus follow the inane "courage" displayed by Apple because they also want to be "premium" is understandable, but that smaller vendors, especially the fair phone do it is just dumb.
Am I supposed to throw away all my headphones now because of this dumb, Apple initiated fad?
No, they think https://shop.fairphone.com/shop/usb-c-to-mini-audio-jack-adapter-3-5mm-18 is fine. (I'm not agreeing with them.)
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Please stop bogging down the conversation with this every single time fairphone comes up
Lemmy is full of first adopter technologists. The kind of people who spend all day on the telephone during conference calls, video conferences, whatever. The kind of people who deal with systems that break all the time. A very vocal community who doesn't like foundational options being removed.
Fairphone brings a much better device to market with better cameras, a better screen, likely a better chip, open hardware specifications and modularity, a completely unlockable bootloader (with likely support for CalyxOS and other ROM's shortly), and up to 8 years of software support(!), but people say they won't get it because no headphone jack...
MFW people have their priorities extremely mixed up... That's been the world now for 6 years, it's time to get over it. Letting perfect be the enemy of good is how you decide to throwaway something as good as what Fairphone seems to be offering. Sony still offers Android devices with headphone jacks, just don't be upset if you don't get another Android version pushed to your device.
Yeah, it's not available in my region. But, if it was, I would consider getting it. Snapdragon 778 level performance should be sufficient for most people.
Ye but I want a god damn head phone jack.
Ugh. Looks like they may never release a device with a headphone jack at this point. I'm fine with my FP3 but it still comes off a bad move.
Can they please just bring back the project manager that oversaw the FP3? Since the departure the company has made very questionable design choices and decisions (FP4 without headphone jack, and the unrepairable first gen Fairbuds)
Buy a usbc dac for everything you have with that plug from 1975. Join us in the modern world.
But that steals a port used for charging :/
I thought I didn't mind when I bought my phone that doesn't have it at first, but it really sucks having to reach for a dongle when I want to use my good headphones on the phone. If USB-C is really so superior for audio, then that would be a good argument to make 2 USB-C ports, don't you think?
Yet barely any manufacturer does it, I only ever saw it on some niche gaming phones. Even if they did that, the jack still has a place IMO, because it's still so ubiquitous even newer midrange headphone releases use itThe fact it's that old literally only proves how reliable and effective it is. I don't want to throw away a good solution for a worse solution just because somebody is trying to paint the worse solution as the future.
No headphone jack? Not interested.
Fair phone really shot themselves in the foot when they removed the headphone jack, especially given their mission statement.
Has the most compelling hardware features of any Fairphone yet looks like. Also, quite like the design compared to their previous attempts.
No eSIM though?It does have eSIM.Also hope the software or rather firmware stuff is good. And would like to see some competent camera review.
Also, gotta say, funny how all the headphone jack die-hards from r/Android ended up here. As every single other comment here currently complains about it missing.
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The most compelling fairphone hardware is like getting the award for tallest dwarf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Rainer
The tallest dwarf is very impressive indeed.
It's too damn big. I got a Fairphone 4 and got rid of it because I just couldn't properly use it (and because of the poor camera performance on top of that). Now they're releasing an even bigger phone? I may be the minority here, but that's a deal breaker for me. I'll need a new phone in the next few months, but right now I'm only considering the s23 or the Xperia 5 V, just because everything else is just too fucking huge.
Exactly. I'm now on 4 years old Samsung S10e, with replaced battery and display, because I can't see myself using ANY of the new phones. All of them are so giant and heavy, and I already feel like I'd like something smaller than my current one... I guess the Fairphone philosophy wins anyway, hehe.
Sadly no headphone jack
Specifically, the Qualcomm QCM6490 octa-core SoC is used in the Fairphone 5, which is actually more intended for embedded and industrial applications. The chip has eight cores and reaches up to 2.7 gigahertz, whereby the performance should be on the level of the Snapdragon 778G 5G .
(Machine translated.)
Interesting. I'll wait for benchmarks before jumping to conclusions. Considering how Qualcomm has been raising prices, I'm not really surprised that vendors are crawling down the product line.
In the article it mentions that the SoC might have been chosen because on it's extended software support of 8 years. Industrial tier electronics also usually cost more than consumer counterparts, so unlikely a cost cutting measure
Awesome. Ars just posted their review and they mention this as well. I have not used a SD 776G phone, which they say is similar. Looking at quick benchmarks, it looks like it sits around the performance level of a SD888?
I’ll wait for benchmarks
Fairphone was never about the high-end. Don't expect anything marvelous.
It doesn't need to compete with current gen flagships, these are just overkill anyway even for me as a heavy user also using it for my work etc. What they do need is "good enough" performance (i.e. 2/3 years old flagship performance) and a decent camera, that's I think what was lacking that actually impacts users.
I hope it gets a US release
Fairphone 4 with /e/OS (degoogled, privacy focused custom ROM) is available in the US. Check out https://murena.com/shop/smartphones
Same, been waiting a long time
There are currently 11 modules, which are user replaceable. It has 8GB of ram. It would've been so much cool if it was upgradable to something like 12/16GB.
Too expensive for me. I understand why, like the whole being "fair" thing and all but those specs are not good enough for 700€.
Not even a fhd screen, only 90hz, with a camera cutout while it has bezels...
People who don't have wireless headphones yet, why are you living in 2015?
Why not let ppl chose what they want to use?
Personally I use both, wireless and wired headphones/speakers. Sometimes Bluetooth is better, sometimes the headphone-jack is more convenient.
Is this so difficult to understand?
We want to reduce our phone risk surface. Bluetooth is a serious security risk
We want to be able to use the same headset on our computers and our phones
We wanted easily be able to replace our headset if it breaks anywhere in the world
We don't want to have to charge yet another thing in our daily carry bag
We want to keep everything simple so it just works always
Wired audio is lower latency, which is better when talking to people
Wired audio has higher quality! (default bluetooth microphone / headset audio is terrible...)
You know how convenient it is to just have some wired headphones lying around in the car in case I need them for some reason? (Like if I forgot my wireless ones for the gym).
I can't do that with wireless headphones, the battery will passively run dry.