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Messanger / Signal / Whatsup Alternative

Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.

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maybe jami?
Why does it matter that Signal is US based? They don't get any of your data. And you don't have to donate if you don't want to.
- I agree. If anything, Signal was made to circumvent government spying. So it's ANTI-US Gov.
Try out the either Element or Fluffychat. Both based on decentralized, privacy, and security. Both based on Matrix. I like Fluffychat for ease of use and it’s on all devices. Plus you have to verify every device that signs in or that new device can not see previous chats as they stay encrypted.
- It's not just "based on". Element and Fluffychat are two clients that use Matrix and are fully interoperable.
  
  (I'm sure you know, but I'm not sure it's obvious for potential newcomers)
  
  Tue. Sorry, bit sleepy while responding doesn’t help.
- I also use Fluffychat and I’m pretty satisfied. But it has its own “quirks”. I would say it’s slightly more buggy than I would expect. And I’m mostly missing the function for pasting of images from mobile device’s clipboard. It’s still doable, but in a somehow convoluted way. But once I got familiar with it, I’m liking it.
  
  One of the latest updates allow you to use the Share button to directly post to Fluffychat. But I do agree with quirks.
- Matrix is terrible for privacy. It shares more metadata with the servers than any other messenger.
  
  From which year is that claim?
- Sounds great, thanks for the tip
  
  You are most welcome. I tried a lot of various messengers and these were the only ones that seemed to fit the extreme security we need in age of fascism.
Element.io is a great option if you can get your circle to sign up
I'd say Simplex, but check this comparison:

https://eylenburg.github.io/im_comparison.htm
- That is great Comparison.. thanks alot.
Threema.
Threema is swiss
Delta Chat! Mostly Germany based, email protocol PGP encrypted messenger
I've been using SimpleX, and I like it a lot. Very polished and reliable. The company is registered in the UK.
I've heard about https://docs.cwtch.im/, but haven't tried it. It does seem to take privacy very seriously.
I've heard of Session, though I haven't actually tried it out yet. It's Swiss.
- Session is not secure.
  
  That's not quite true, is it? There's some criticism, from what I can see, but from there to "it's not secure" is a bit of a leap. They even moved out of Australia to avoid the backdoor requirements; they clearly care, to some extent, at least.

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