Brace yourself for Discord to get worse: Reports swirl that the company is in talks with bankers about opening itself up to shareholders

If you mean screensharing, then you can totally do that with game footage in element call tho. Someone i know had the same concern but it worked fine for them. This is the call software used in the element matrix client so you can try it out and tell me if it works https://call.element.io/

It might be slow but its happening. Linux just has 1 more barrier for me to switch: games with kernal anti cheats.

"Dual boot" - I'd have to switch so often its not funny, I value my time at least a little bit ok "Don't play those games" - I have friends, those friends want to play those games, I want to hang out with those friends because they're fun people

And it is slowly happening :)

It's happening. Slowly.

I first dabbled with Linux around 2015 by dual booting. Ran into too many issues, then I royally fucked shit up by accidentally deleting the bootloader or something, so I was pretty hesitant to try again. I finally got a hold of a surplus laptop from work so I could install Mint on it without any worry that I'd lose important data.

I've been using that as my primary PC for a few months now. I've run into some minor challenges, but nothing critical that I couldn't figure out with a search engine.

I had another old laptop still running Windows 7 that has been having weird issues, but I'd been too lazy to backup the files so I could wipe it. I finally pulled the trigger today, fully wiped it, and installed Mint on it.

I'm not ready to preach Linux to my "normie" friends yet, but do mention it to them here and there in hopes I'll be able to bring them over in the future.

Linux is growing at an impressive speed. A few years ago it was at 1% market share now its what 4%?

This is the public test version of the new call system that you can try without an account https://call.element.io/

Its pretty new and still evolving, but this is basically just embedded in Element if you start a call in the client. From my test just now it doesnt look like you can have two people screensharing at once :( The screensharing itself works fine tho, it looks like a new share by a different person will just overwrite the previously started one.

That's a somewhat weird, to me, use case. Even in a business setting, we share our screens with colleagues via meet or slack only one or two at a time. How does this work on Discord and why would a party of people do it?

That's just natural. Discord has a huge weight of numbers. People stay where they already are, unless there is significant motivation to move.

Matrix would have to be MUCH better than Discord in terms of features to attract people to move their whole communities and friend groups, not just simply on-par. And that's pretty tough.

So yes - we're basically waiting for Discord to continue its slow march into enshittification.

Matrix is getting better constantly tho. I havent had any issues introducing non techie people to it.

it is getting better at least

Any service whose main strength is "OSS, privacy, freedom, security" will usually never hit mainstream success. I say this as a FOSS enthusiast.

You need funding to get better easier, which is something matrix doesnt have alot of

You probably already know that its federated, so first step would be picking a server. I would pick one that is on your continent from this list. https://servers.joinmatrix.org/

I would not recommend using the matrix.org server but im too lazy right now to explain why. (basically the same as the arguments against pushing users to lemmy.world)

I would also not use a web based client long term. In the next step you will need to for registration, which is kind of stupid, but you can just log out of the web client after the registration is done.

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Im just gonna randomly pick the server https://gemeinsam.jetzt/ (Austria) from the earlier list. From the list it links you to https://element.gemeinsam.jetzt/ for registration. If you click on "Create Account" it will give you this prompt:

After you fill everything out (+ email confirmation) you will be logged in. Now you have an account that you can use to log into a proper client with an address that look like this @username:gemeinsam.jetzt

You can now log out of the web client as you dont need it anymore. (It might warn you that you are logging out of your last device/session but thats ok).

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Now you can pick a client (there are many but these are the most up to date ones).

For desktop use: https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/element/

For mobile use the newer: https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/element-x/

So now you have an account on a server of your choosing and a client which means you just give the client your full address like @username:gemeinsam.jetzt to log in and the client will automatically figure out what server your account is on. Put in your password and you are logged in.

Every time you log into a new client, it creates a new session/device that will have its own independent set of message encryption keys unless verified by another existing device/session. That means to keep your keys synchronized (and messages readable) the client will always request you to verify new devices (other than the first one) upon login.

As you logged out of the only remaining session/device earlier, this newly created one should again be the first and only one of the account. You can verify this in the client settings by looking at the "Sessions" section.

Thats basically it for the initial setup. See following section for why you should have either multiple devices/sessions or set up a recovery key.

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Your messages are stored in your account data on your server, but they are encrypted, so if you lose access to all your devices, then all those messages are gone. To prevent that you can create a "recovery key" which is just a long password that is used to encrypt your encryption keys so they too can be stored safely on your server. This allows you to restore your messages even if all devices are lost by entering the recovery key after logging in from a new device.

If you want to use multiple devices just log in on that device and follow the prompt to "verify this session from another device". (works by QR code or comparing some emojis) By verifying a session, you synchronize all your message encryption keys to that device/session. The easiest way to verify new devices is like this, by using an existing device.

Let me know if you get stuck anywhere and i will try to help you out :)

If you're on lemmy then there's nothing that new and different about matrix. It's the same idea for chat apps: you can join an existing server, or host your own. Matrix doesn't federate, so you just need to add whatever new servers you want to join.

Element is one of the bigger client apps. Matrix.org is the biggest server. Those will get you started.

IRC baby! Always searchable. I hate discord search.

If only discord had stuck to just voice chat. They are miles better in that arena than other options were at the time. I just hate how it also replaced forums. And issue trackers. And some people try to run wikis and image boorus and everything else under the sun as a discord server

This is an issue I see with Lemmy regarding Discord. Many people here seem to think of Discord as a messaging platform only. Which is weird because I don’t know anyone who uses it strictly for text. For example my friend group is probably 60% voice, 30% video/screen sharing & 10% text.

Just use Jitsi for anything other than perzistent chat.

Nice, thank you for the reply. Do you know if the devs are involved in any drama that might affect the project? Seems like every day we find out about dev drama in alternative projects.

Revolt is a 1:1 copy of Discord.

revolt doesnt have working notifications on mobile