Former Arkane designer says Dishonored 2 cost more to make than Skyrim, and while it didn't meet Bethesda's sales expectations, the series' reputation still 'saved the studio'
Former Arkane designer says Dishonored 2 cost more to make than Skyrim, and while it didn't meet Bethesda's sales expectations, the series' reputation still 'saved the studio'
But that didn't stop Bethesda from eventually putting the series on ice.
Dishonored 2 is a masterpiece. Great art, great characters, gameplay options out the ass... gotta go back and play it now
Personally I was a bigger fan of the 1st one. The storyline was great, it had some eery scenes, and it ran soooo well on the steam deck.
May not have given the second one a good enough chance, though the 1st one will always have a special place in my heart
I agree. I'm playing through part 2 right now, as I just finished part 1 a few days ago. I have to say so far part 2 is really good but it's just lacking something that part 1 had. I think my biggest issue is Corvo having a voice. I didn't think it would bother me but considering he is totally silent in the first game, him talking to himself in part 2 is just jarring. I probably should have played as Emily instead.
Which do you prefer Dishonored 1 or 2? I struggle to pick a favourite, tbh.
I just played through both and it’s definitely 2. The graphical difference between the two is actually absurd, and the QOL changes, level design, and two main characters pushes it into a separate league from the first. Only thing about 2 that isn’t better is the voice acting. The VA is HORRIBLE in D2 it’s actually kind of distracting. No thanks to Vincent D’onofrio who is an atrocious actor.
I started replaying the first one last week. We really had no idea how good we had it back then. I don't think we'll ever get another experience like that again.
One of the few games I've ever played more than once. Great game, indeed.
More games like Prey (2017) please.
Prey (2017) was so good! It looked amazing, played amazing, and had a really cool story. I gotta go back and play it again someday.
Prey was the first game in a long time to make me stop and go "what the fuuuuuuuck?" in a long time.
It's a good feeling.
I'd absolutely love to know where the team expected to take the story after the ending(s) if they made a direct sequel.
More like Prey, for sure.
Dishonored 2 was made by the Lyon studio, Prey was made by the Austin studio
That's the one they shut down, right? ☹️
It’s a game for people who like to play rogues. Frankly, I love it. Sniper cheese is available everywhere.
Dishonored 2 is in my top 5. The crafting of the Crack in the Slab chapter alone is masterful.
Even in DND, there’s an evil requirement to specialize in assassin, so it makes sense that things get darker on that path. Regular rogue, you can still be good. There are very, very few games that allow for pure stealth runs, Dishonored happens to be one of them.
You convinced me to download the game. Been craving a game exactly like that for a while. Should the first one be played before going into 2?
Yes for sure. D1 is older but it plays the exact same as D2. The story is a good one and you’ll really enjoy the context you get from the first game when you reach the second. They aren’t incredibly long games so you can finish it in a few evenings if you don’t take your time exploring and doing little side missions.
Two things to keep in mind, since you’ll be playing through D1 for the story, make sure you play through it non-lethally. The low chaos ending is canon so you’ll want to get it so that the plot in D2 makes sense. The other thing is to make sure you play the Knife of Dunwall and Witches of Brigmore Manor DLC (in that order) as they are functionally a prequel to the plot of the second game.
I think so. Like fallout 3 vs new Vegas the second has more polish, always.
You’re Corvo in the first one. You see your love and Empress killed in front of you, your daughter kidnapped, and you blamed. You escape. Now, you need to find your daughter. It leads into playing as Emily in game 2. Witches backstory as well.
Then they were forced to make a live service game that they had no passion for and weren't adept at which naturally failed and killed the studio
RIP. Live service death is this generations bought by big publisher
Dishonored series is one of my favorite games. Love a good immersive sim
They survived, made prey and then it kinda went downhill from there. Now they are making a Marvel action adventure game 🤢.
I would argue that Prey is a gem of an immersive sim
I would agree with that, but I'd also be surprised if Prey was a financial gem for the executives.
Was Dishonoured 2 any good? I finished the first one but it was really soured by the whole chaos system thing. I really didn’t like how I was supposed to play the game without killing anyone to get the good game. Playing the game without killing people is boring but the sad ending is so depressing it makes you feel like you failed.
I very recently played the 1st, and am currently mid way through 2. All these years later, and 2 still has jarring performance dips.... On my 5800X3D and 6800XT... I legit think they made 2 way too heavy for their game engine.
The amount of frustrations is way more, too. I've had to load saves so many times because I'm RIGHT behind someone, but instead of a stealth kill, I just slash my sword at their back and alert every one else in the process. Also stealth kills from jumping down on people. There's like a 1/4 second time window to press sword attack, and all the damn time I just slice at the top of their head, or land on them, both breaking stealth and alerting everyone, again... Just a month ago I never struggled with any of these issues playing the 1st.
The bit I couldn’t handle is, it’s a first person game with a less accessible “detective vision” where guards fill their detection meter super fast.
You could do fun stuff if you already knew the level layout and guard patrols, but exploring creatively without opening dark vision every 8 feet caused you to run into a guard and suddenly it’s a chaos run. The combat was not fun enough to dedicate efforts to that.
I think the moment where I stopped playing was when I was perched on an awning above the guards, and they still spotted me. Often, a conceit of stealth game verticality is that guards don’t look up very far.
Compare to Hitman: If you trespass, a guy escorts you out. If someone sees through your disguise, they chase after you with questions, not bullets. If one person sees you act illegally, they try to arrest you and you can grab the gun. With basic awareness, you can often prevent escalation to gunshots fired and backup called.