Sir, proper nomenclature is "the plantation" and vast majority of us are field *****
And it has been this way all of history except for generic whites after world war 2 but after they betrayed owner class during civil rights, daddy turned them back in the field variety slave.
That would be funny, but I actually just read how some EU countries have more “admissions” than America. They just don’t lock them away in labor camps.
It was actually on the AI Overview, so take that with a grain of salt lol
On the subject of prison, how can a prison be privatized. I dont live in the U.S and never heard of private prisons. Are there other countries that do this and if so, how many
If you replace the word prison with forced labor camp it makes more sense. Other countries with forced labor of prisoners include Russia, North Korea, and China. In the US they use the 13th amendment to prevent organization of prison labor and defense of their basic human rights.
I don't exactly have that much of an issue of it being privatized as much as I have an issue with having them be for profit. Of course it's all fickle with what you encourage with money, but I feel like the aim should be to encourage rehabilitation of the inmates, so psychological treatment, opportunity to study so they can become a productive part of society again, etc and the funding should be based on that, but that could also backfire in some ways.
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
Then let it fucking close. What kind of threat is that? Good, fucking close it. Is the implication that the other prisoners will just end up on the street doing crimes again? No, they will get transferred, because that’s how the prison system works. If there’s not enough prisoners to fill a fucking prison then close it. That private company that was built on imprisonment can EAT THAT FUCKING COST. Man fuck everything about this.
I once went to object at some kind of public hearing the local government was doing about going forward with building a new prison. They were trying to make the argument that it's not up to them how many people are imprisoned, they just have a legal obligation to imprison people the courts tell them to. I wasn't sure to what extent that was really true, but I'm guessing the first thing that would happen is overcrowded inhumane conditions rather than freeing people.
That’s the thing, right. That’s completely logical in a vacuum. But once you realize there are perverse systemic incentives to lock people up in a country like the US, that argument completely falls apart.
“Haha those americans are so funny! It’s illegal to walk a pig on a paved road after sunset in this small town! Isn’t that random?” No, it’s not random at all. There’s a reason these laws were ever put on the books.
My part of the world is no better than the US regarding mistreatment of undeserving people but at least nobody pretends we live and breathe unparalleled liberty.
When the prison industry is threatened by plummeting incarceration rates because we're not sending every kid with a dime bag of weed to prison for life...we'll surely see some prison system reforms, right?
Who am I kidding. If the prison industrial complex is threatened and they're not making up the shortfall by imprisoning "deportees" in private federal prisons, we're going to swiftly see marijuana back on schedule 1 with a new reefer madness bullshit propaganda. Or they'll find something new to bolster mass incarceration.
The USA just wouldn't be the same without slave labor! Who'll fight our fires in California?
Fuck me, I just searched for US prison produced goods and services and found https://www.unicor.gov/
This country has been fucked for a long time. I really think a lot of people in America are so selfish and greedy that they actually are okay with slavery. They won't use that word though, it makes them uncomfortable FOR SOME REASON.
In developing world: our prison is so full and most are just minor, non-violent crime, we should decriminalise those offence so prison can free up spaces and use those budget for infrastructure that need the money.
Merica:
This is what happen if you have for-profit, private prison.
You have to realize that there are a lot of places where the local prison is the only industry they have left. Closing the prison means folks will be out of work.
If the prison is the only thing keeping the town alive then the town doesn't need to exist.
A community should never be beholden to a single employer, company towns taught us that lesson over 100 years ago. And especially not an employer that traffics in human suffering and misery.
Reagan let the infrastructure go to hell because he didn't want to raise taxes. That meant that there was never going to be a return for those towns that used to make things like lightbulbs or ladders. Thanks President Reagan
. From 1979 to 1982, known as the Volcker shock,[10][11] the U.S. Federal Reserve decided to raise the base interest rate in the United States to 19%. High-interest rates attracted wealthy foreign "hot money" into U.S. banks and caused the U.S. dollar to appreciate. This made U.S. products more expensive for foreigners to buy and also made imports much cheaper for Americans to purchase. The misaligned exchange rate was not rectified until 1986, by which time Japanese imports, in particular, had made rapid inroads into U.S. markets.[12]
Then they should leave that city or figure out a way to work remote. Cities rise and fade with opportunity. You can't force there to be opportunity where there is none.
People might have forgotten, but it wasnt unheard of to move to neighboring towns for, wait for it, better opportunities. Not even that far away in some cases.
Closing prisons is always a good thing if its due to lack of prisoners. That trumps any need for steady wages for a group of people near the prison.
Edit: Stringere also made a good point about company towns in another comment.