Man who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband gets life in prison
Man who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband gets life in prison
Good. I hope that sends a message to the rest of the MAGA terrorists out there, but I doubt it.
Not to rain on the parade but this dude was fairly crazy. So long as extreme division is still being peddled over the… every single form of media, nothing will change.
You know who sows more division than anyone else?
Fuckface 45
Yeah, this wasn't your typical MAGA nut. He was quite extra. Plus, he attacked one of our top federal officers, aiming for 3rd in line to the Presidency.
Lots of reasons this guy is getting buried that didn't/won't apply to your typical MAGA terrorist.
Typical lemmy, downvoting OP because you sense he might not be saying something you like.
Hey OP! Call Trump some childish names so we all know where you stand!
Now he can hang out with his idol Trump
Another instance where the prison system is used as a warehouse for the mentally ill.
Well this is true, At least they shovedsomebody in there that fucking did it. Unlike the likely innocent people they've killed recently, or the one that was exonerated and is still in jail I believe?
At least some of MAGA gets normal consequences for heinous actions.
Good. That’s where he belongs.
I haven't heard, but has her husband fully recovered?
good, and I was also expecting more of these types of sentences for the insurrectionists.
Prison is our fucking answer to everything. No house? Prison. Said something bad? Prison. Had a bad month and hit somebody? Prison. Prison. Prison.
We lean on it as a convenient one-stop solution when we could instead do work to rehabilitate people, fix the problem, or prevent the problem from happening. The reason our prisons are overflowing is because no one is stepping up and saying, "maybe prison shouldn't be our answer to every single societal problem."
Your point would be valid if it was about possessing drugs or some other non-violent crime instead of attempted murder.
He planned on torturing them first. I think it's the whole planning and then following through on it aspect that got him life.
He wasn't convicted of Attempted Murder. He was convicted of:
Federal: 30 years
- Kidnapping
- First-degree burglary
- False imprisonment of an elder
State: Life without parole
- Aggravated kidnapping resulting in bodily harm
- False imprisonment of an elder or dependent adult
- Threatening family of public officials
- First degree residential burglary
- Preventing or dissuading a witness by force or threat
Serious crimes for certain, but for someone with no prior violent convictions for 42 years, and clear mental health issues, life imprisonment is nothing more than throwing a person away because we lack the compassion to offer an actual functioning correctional system with mental health care.
As a prison reformist, I strongly oppose this sentence.
Yeah make them pay a fine
How much should attempted murder cost anyway?
Ten dollars?
Generally I want to agree with you. We punish instead of help.
But in this case, prison is the ideal result.
didn't want to get side tracked by this one case
but getting hit with a bus was the ideas result for this guy lol
Not for every problem, but if you're physically dangerous there's not many better solutions. We need preventive measures so fewer people end up in that state, but you can't prevent away ongoing violence.
Prison or a psych ward should absolutely be the answer to someone trying to kill a stranger with a hammer because of what they heard on radio/TV. I don’t care how bad someone’s month was if they’re trying to kill me.
It may not be the answer to every problem but it seems like a pretty good solution for somebody that attempted to murder somebody.
And I've actually been in prison for nonviolent offenses. That doesn't mean the whole idea of separating dangerous people from society is a bad one.
He wasn't convicted of Attempted Murder. He was convicted of:
Federal: 30 years
- Kidnapping
- First-degree burglary
- False imprisonment of an elder
State: Life without parole
- Aggravated kidnapping resulting in bodily harm
- False imprisonment of an elder or dependent adult
- Threatening family of public officials
- First degree residential burglary
- Preventing or dissuading a witness by force or threat
I'm not saying separation dangerous people from society is a bad one.
I'm saying prison shouldn't be the default solution for every offense.
The USA has the highest number and percentage of incarcerated people anywhere in the world because everyone's kneejerk response is, "but we need it for dangerous murderers!" instead of "it's a human rights crisis that we're allowing to happen in our backyards and we're choosing to allow it to happen instead of doing the hard work of brainstorming and building an effective alternative".
I agree with you about prison not being a panacea for criminal / violent behavior.
When given the chance to address the court prior to his sentencing, DePape, dressed in prison orange and with his brown hair in a ponytail, spoke at length about Sept. 11 being an inside job, his ex-wife being replaced by a body double, and his government-provided attorneys conspiring against him.
“I’m a psychic,” DePape told the court, reading from sheets of paper. “The more I meditate, the more psychic I get.”
While I don't think that DePape should be released into the public, it sounds like some sort of psychiatric facility would be more appropriate for him. Ignoring mental health issues is not going to make them go away and maybe if he and others like him were put someplace where he could be observed then we, as a society, may be able to put some policies in place to address future potential dangers before they culminate in violence.