"Night owl" sleep preference is a real thing and isn't a choice (being largely genetic). Night owls forced to obey a daytime schedule suffer from what researchers call "social jet lag" because it constantly feels like they're living in the wrong time zone. Here's a 3-minute AsapSCIENCE video with more details for anyone interested.
Im not going to disagree with you, but i have this nagging suspicion that most people who think they are "night owls" are really just shining a phone light in their face every night and confusing their sleep cycle.
For some that's definitely true. It's well known that light (especially Edit: blue-to-yellow as per below) can disrupt someone's circadian rhythm.
That may be true, but at least the genes for night owls are present in more people than the genes for early birds.
So it should be expected that, regardless of phone usage, over half of the population will go to bed and wake up ~2-3h later than expected.
If your timezone is closely aligned with the sun, that'd be 22:00-06:00 for early birds and 01:00-09:00 for night owls. But if your timezone isn't, both of these times would shift around.
For me personally, no matter when I go to bed, whether it's 22:00 or 03:00, I always wake up precisely 09:30 without any alarm clock. But this also means if I have to wake up earlier, e.g. at 8am, I'll be very tired and not well rested.
I am typing this in Wuhan, listening to birds singing in the middle of the night. Are they owls? No, their sleep patterns have simply adapted to the constant neon lighting all over the place.
Depression and alcohol can also negatively affect sleep patterns.
Combine depression with all night TV binge watching or phone soon browsing for a greaaaat combo.One can break cycles, though.
And definitely a lot of it is just that people have gotten used to it. People think they have insomnia because every time they try to go to bed early they can't sleep but they're doing it the wrong way. They should wake up early and go to bed when they start to feel sleepy and work on sleep hygiene (including even a short walk outside). It won't be fixed in a day.
It also changed with age for me. And I feel like I also influenced it by getting to bed on time almost everyday, and putting away the phone.
So I understand that it might be very difficult, it was the same for me, and I managed to change it.
Still feel tired if I have to wake up before 7 am, no matter how much I slept, but that’s mostly avoidable.
Night owls exist, I know because I’m one.
But this guy is full of shit. Friends rarely want to hang out at 10 am. Afternoon? Sure. Evening? Bet on it. But 10 am? Not so often. And if they do they know it’s early for you because they’re your friend.
Classes at 10 am? Goodness me, you poor soul. Every 9 -5 wageslave will shed a tear for you. (Yeah, I know. I’d prefer classes in the afternoon too.)
Meet your Gf for lunch instead, or go with her on the weekends a bit later.
And yeah. Fishing is often early in the morning. Make an exception for your friend or don’t go.
Society sucks demanding from people to be crisp and sharp at 8am. But I have a feeling we have some guy here, who likes to play vidiya games all night long and wants present himself as the victim.
Work 9-5
classes at 10 am
Fuck me T-T (nightowl, work 6am-2pm, have to wake up 4:30am...)
And when I had classes these fuckers began 7-8 am...
Can't you just take a nap in the afternoon?
What’s even the point of a virgin GF? Is this some bizarre “look but don’t touch” fetish?
I mean, that is often how engineering school works out.
yes, the fetish is called patriarchy
It just means they want a girlfriend who hasn't had sex with a prior partner.
So they want someone they can relate to?
It's an ancient Islam thing.
Anon should seek help to fix his sleep!
I solved this by working nights. Get in the habit of staying up until morning. Then you're used to being awake at those times mentioned in the OP.
Interestingly, waking up on a pleasant warm afternoon mitigates some of the ick of waking up after insufficient sleep. Waking up at 5am to go somewhere sounds like torture. Waking up at 5pm to go somewhere is a piece of cake. You'd think your body would feel the same, if it got the same amount of sleep, but it doesn't. The ick goes away on a nights schedule.
The true hell is trying to get sleep when everyone else is going about their days. Loudly.
Try turning your phone TV and computer off when the sun goes down. I'm not saying insomnia isn't a thing. But if you're just sitting in the dark or reading a book or something that doesn't have bright stimulating lights you have a much better chance to fall asleep.
