Another Amazon Prime Day scam post. The item on 'sale' was cheaper when I bought it last week.
Another Amazon Prime Day scam post. The item on 'sale' was cheaper when I bought it last week.
Prime Day is just Black Friday in July. Amazon is trying to get rid of old stock.
If you have an idea of what you want before the sale starts and know how much the standard price is you can still be lucky and get a good deal. You just have to be careful not to get sucked in to a non deal.
For example, I was looking out for an Apple Watch. There is a good sale on them but they only have a limited set of body and strap combinations. I don’t want any of the straps on offer so it negates almost all of the discount as I’d be paying £50 for a strap that I wouldn’t use.
This entire comment is the perfect explanation for my issue with people getting excited over Black Friday/Prime Day. I see so many people every year excitedly saying (or at times bragging), oh I got this, I got that, and it was so cheap. But unless you were already looking at that thing you haven't saved money. You've actually spent more than you would have if it wasn't on sale.
In Europe there's a law that forces stores (online but also physical) to post also the lowest minimum price in the last month.
So it would be
€199€64 (lowest price in the last 30 days: €39)Amazon US doesn't do that, but they do show a "lowest price in 30 days" badge that is actually truthful (appears when the item is on sale and the sale price is the lowest in the last 30 days). Of course, there's some sellers that game it by increasing their prices over 30 days before Prime Day.
I dont think it includes procong due to coupons though.
If a product had a minor coupon (e.g <5$) and the product was discounted to that price without coupon, it would still advertise lowest price despite it not really changing.
I don’t know if it’s a law here too in Canada, but Amazon.ca works the same. What sellers do to get around this just make a new listing for products at inflated rates so they can then discount them for “sales”, while simultaneously setting the regular listing to unavailable until the “sale” is over.
In the U.S. that’s a big “fuck you buddy, Ima get mine,” from congress.
On Germany's site it was rampant with crap like that that had it's price raised literally 3 days before the prime day
There is a law for that? never seen that. where can you see this information on amazon for example?
Not to defend Amazon, but in past years the comments in Reddit on this issue pointed out that Amazon has requirements on markdown percentages to qualify for prime day and lightning sales. As a result, vendors who control their price will artificially increase their price over the days leading to prime day and then apply the “discount”.
I do wish that if that were the case that Amazon actually address it as they should be able to detect that pattern. I unfortunately think they don’t care as they make money regardless. I just wish they care a bit more about earning and keeping trust.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09P8BPPQW
Here's the product page. You can see how it's 46% off $119, but if you want, you can also buy it at $89 regular price. They're now not even increasing the price of the item, they're just claiming it's higher.
The normal price is $89.99, which represents a 15% discount off the MSRP of $119.99 (that they're claiming). The current price of $64.99, is a discount of 42%, which represents an additional 27% off. I don't think this listing necessarily proves the point.
That being said, companies absolutely do engage in this kind of bullshit. This one may have done it itself in order to claim the MSRP at $119.99.
Amazon could use the average price over the last 3 months l, but they don't care.
Exactly. They have all the data in the world, but I'm sure they are doing what's optimal for their profit.
Common Amazon deception. Mark up a product's base cost artificially, then take a "percentage off" to bring it back down to near the base price it always is. Maybe slightly more expensive or cheaper, but usually just a smidge away from the normal cost. It's for the illusion of "being on sale."
Use an Amazon price tracker site (like camel camel camel for example) so that you can always call out Amazon and make sure that you're getting their actual lowest prices when you have to buy from them.
Classic Kohl's strategy, not sure if they did it first, but its the first place I saw it used in early 2000s.
Furniture stores are infamous for that. They make a big deal of closing down for a day and marking every item in the store with a big discount, but what they don't tell you is they jack the price way up first before applying the discount.
Even the percentage claimed is just complete garbage. Zero proof of how many are actually sold, the counter could start at 70% sold for all we know. Even if there was proof, it's still clearly just a "other people bought this so you aren't stupid for buying it too".
Really good manipulation there tbh. Someone probably got a raise for that
Yeah in this one, the discount is 40% down from $119, but the regular price below says it's $89
Use camelcamelcamel to check price history, really shows how "good" the sales are!
I do this for every item. I did buy some stuff this prime day and one item was in reality $5 cheaper... not the $15 Amazon said. I also sometimes find target, Walmart or Microcenter(frys) has just a good a deal: and those stores actually let you return stuff and give you your money back
my credit union emailed me today about Prime Day deals, wtf?!?
Amazon started in may sending a massive email campaign to all affiliates with referral links reminding prime day, if an user buys something using the link, the affiliate (in this case your credit union) will get a 5% commission
more reasons to want to run for office in my credit union.
I wondered why I was getting so many emails about it. I just went through and unsubscribed to every mailing list that mentioned Prime Day. This is an Amazon Free home.
Thanks for the info.
Amusingly enough, I bought an small appliance yesterday, amazon had worse deals than a big box store. They had cheaper prices on no name junk that was gonna take a week to get to me. Prime day is total shit.
IME Amazon has worse prices on a lot of stuff lately. It's mostly just convenience at this point.
Exactly, amazon is a thing because we all don't have time to run to the store for that one thing that isn't an emergency. I see it as another way that the " " system " " has boxed us more into the "CONSUME" driven American existence. Like, even if a store is 5 minutes away and you're getting "one thing" it's still going to take at least 30 minute commitment especially if that store is say "walmart". If the store is 15 mins away, you're basically at an hour commitment.
We don't have time to do stuff like that anymore! I am trying to weigh that thought and the idea we are all just brainwashed into the immediacy of needing everything now.
I don't know it's a lot to think about... lol
If you're into amazon electronics, that's the only time to buy because it's the only thing on sale. lol.
Fucking AnazonBasics pulled this shit with something I bought. Not quite as bad; it was still technically on sale, but only by $2 instead of the $7 they would have you believe.
Yea, I don't assume anything is on sale until I've looked at camelcamelcamel.com. Even then, it doesn't get lightning deals, and some other random promotions, so it can be difficult to tell what an actual good price is.
Camelcamelcamel is good, but Keepa has a browser extension that shows the price graph directly on the Amazon page, so you don't have to go anywhere or click anything to see it.
Also they stole the product from a former 3rd party seller
Prime Day a scam? What? Impossible!
INCONCEIVABLE!
The AMD 5800x3d prime day deal is 9% off at $401 CAD, but two days ago it was $359.
On the other hand, the Zotac RTX 4080 Trinity OC was $1589 CAD, and for prime day is $1229, an actual deal.
Except that the GPU is taking it on the chin on sales anyways. Probably a week from now it'll be $1200 and they are just hoping to grab a few quick sales before the actual price drop
Absolutely right, we could see many 4080 cards drop to around 1200-1300. I hope we do.
Idk why anyone is surprised Amazon is deceitful lmao
I called out best buy for this exact same practice years ago. I refuse to participate in mass sales now as a result. It's all just a giant scam. Either blantant lies on pricing, or they use inferior parts for the sale items.
I'm the only one who was very underwhelmed by this year's Prime Day(s)?
I know it's for clearing out their warehouses, but most of the sales were on crap or only minor discounts.
I guess you meant underwhelmed instead of understanding.
And well Idk I didn't need anything so not sure. Personally the only thing I got was the Microsoft 365 Family subscription for 1 year since it was half a price than the usual renewall... Although now that I think about it maybe I should have bought more years.
Every deal I was interested in I checked on camel camel camel. Everything was marked ~40% off but was really only like ~5-10% off. There were a few good deals, but they were in a sea of fake deals making it impossible to actually find them.
I mostly bought mundane stuff and I'm turn didn't leave disappointed. Disinfecting wipes, ibuprofen, etc.
Same.
Demand is through the roof so there is less excess inventory to try to move.
The only advice I can give is buy base on what you feel an item is worth to you.
I'm perfectly fine to keep searching for something for months before I finally make a purchase cause its the right price, color and model for me.
We need better tools and ability to track this stuff. Pretty amazing we can have a super powered chatbot that can answer any question but I can't find an excel sheet that tracks historical prices of goods in a meaningful way.
Also I bet it would be illegal to create that excel sheet in some way.
There are many such apps. Search for price trackers.
There is actually a browser extension that tracks prices. Damn I forgot which one it is.
Camel Camel Camel is helpful when its statistics are available
CamelCamelCamel does this. I don't remember if they have a browser extension though.
Not illegal. Check out CamelCamelCamel.com
Not only is such a thing not illegal, I found half a dozen in 2 seconds on Google.
ChatGPT could be used a trojan horse to get webscrapping made illegal. Companies will fight tooth and nail if people had a good ability to see their price history. There are apps to do it. But it requires a lot of time and the data isn't always reliable or not available
I've been using Keepa for this for years in Firefox.
This shows consumerism as its finest (or worst). Easy for me to say control your urges but it does help by not buying any crap that you might think you want and clutter up your place
Can this power be learned?
You ever think about how we fully embraced the consumer lifestyle. Every minute of our life is now just an ad. From podcasts to Mr. Beast to sports. Its packaged as entertainment and fun but its all created to make us feel like we need to go buy something. Look at how enraged bud lite made people. That only happens to people whose identity gets twisted with products. People were legitimately hurt by a can of beer.
The 90s was this last ditch anti corporate anti consumerism lifestyle that I don't think we'll ever see again. Sub cultures need individuals to get popular and spread the message. But the only way to get popular today is to endorse and hawk merchandise because all our mediums of communication are owned by advertisers. The only purpose all the website, social media and others have is to act as hidden ads to get us to consume so how could anyone ever make headway who opposes that.
Hell majority of our censorship is due to ads. Companies want crisp clean PG spaces to put their products next too. They don't want to risk controversy so they indirectly force company's to remove anything that would create those risks.
I think we're fucked and its only going to get more pervasive.
Your screen shots don’t show the item being sold in the first one or the price in the second one. I fully believe Amazon is doing Amazon things but did you even look at your own pictures before making your post?
I screenshotted it from my phone, and I could only get so much in a screenshot. They are all the same items. Here's a desktop screenshot. Looks like the item has been 90+ claimed since morning. Another scam.
Hard-core Dark Patterns, amazon...
I was looking at a QNAP NAS box. When I added it to watch it was $589. Yesterday before prime day it was $573. This morning it was $582. Mid day it was back to $589.
Not a big difference and it wasn’t a prime day deal. But it’s more expensive than yesterday?
Ingoe a good chuckle this morning when checking my Amazon cart and getting notifications of multiple items having lower prices and none had it increased.
Oddly enough, I managed to find some really cheap gum. Usually $4.50 on sale at the shops but I got 6x bottles / packs of it for 12 bucks. Pretty happy finding little bargains like that!
