Divide and rule

No but englightened centralism means facts don't matter.

I see this as more anti-nationalism than any kind of centrism.
- I didn't.
- Shh don't try to get them to understand, they need their safety blanket of good vs evil because without feeling like they're one of the good guys they'll have to confront their own personal failings.
  
  Say it to my face next time. It is a lot more impressive compared to mindreading.
  
  I've said plenty "to your face" and all you see me as is another anonymous with a preset of opinions you're already set on disagreeing with. You don't give me the benefit of even having a face. But you expect it from others? Next time you see me , ask something about me and get to know me.
  
  Are you 14?
  
  Looks cowardly when you dont say it directly to someone. No surprise an englightened centralist would use that method.
  
  Takes the slightest bit of courage to study an issue and stand by a value judgement. Takes no courage to claim to be above it.

If there isn't, they need to step up their shit.

Not European, but there's Voice of America: Russian, which was originally headed by Richard Carlson from 1986 to 1991. You might not recognize Dick, but his son Tucker is also a fixture in the media business.

I bet there are, just a matter of scale and effectiveness.

There's an organization that sneaks usb drives to North Korea. Full of news, shows, articles etc all hand picked by former NK citizens that defected

But is it disinformation?

Spreading information is not the same as spreading lies.
- But is it disinformation?
  
  There's a great documentary about North Korean expats who were convinced to flee to South Korea based on anti-NK agitprop. Once they arrive in SK, they discover that they're second class citizens whose only real revenue source is talking shit about NK. This has given birth to one of the most famous NK dissident disinformation agents, Yeomni Park
  
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  There's a great documentary about North Korean expats who were convinced to flee to South Korea based on anti-NK agitprop
  
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  You seriously believe this? This isn't a great documentary, it peddles conspiracies theories without attempting to prove any of its claims.
  
  The channel this is posted on is clearly of one opinion and is pushing an agenda.
  
  They are brought to a detention center, for a week, longer if they are showing signs of cult behavior. The video tries really hard to show this to be horrible and makes zero attempts to balance this in anyway. To me this sounds like a deprogramming center but to a tankie it is primed to accept its sinister and therefore will accept it without thinking.
  
  This video actually proves that not everyone can be deprogrammed. Near the end the one of the North Korean's literally says North Korea is awesome and not a dictatorship because it says so in the constitution. Also, the lack of protesters during the famine are proof that every one believed in the leadership so much that there was no need to protest.
  
  That's cult mentality. There are people who believe everything they hear and lack critical thinking skills. You might be one of them, but I am not.
  
  To a critical observer this only serves to show how subversive propaganda is and how it can permanently break some people's minds.
  
  The fact that that exists, shows we have freedoms. Show me the anti-north Korean propaganda that North Koreans can freely access.
  
  This isn’t a great documentary, it peddles conspiracies theories without attempting to prove any of its claims.
  
  Direct Testimonial of trafficked North Korean ex-pats is the proof.
  
  This video actually proves that not everyone can be deprogrammed
  
  This comment certainly is.
- I'm sure it's not all 100% objective truth. Nobody wants to talk shit about themselves willingly. But yeah just sayin.
  
  I mean, a whole heck of a lot of the US is perfectly willing to talk shit about the US. We just get annoyed if people outside the US that aren't Nordic start talking shit about the US. The Swiss can shut up, or put up. Same for India.
  
  That being said, you're probably correct that it isn't objective, as I seriously doubt that they are sending solely documentaries and AP sources.
  
  Edit: Congratulations to The Swiss for their stance on Ukraine.
  
  You're so brain rotted you can't conceive that someone would throw their own country under the bus. Most people in developed societies do, frequently.
  
  Nobody as in world leaders. Not nobody as in individual citizens.
  
  People in the US know things are fucked up, but when was the last time you heard that said in a State of the Union address for example? When it's on a world stage every country tries to look good.

"Hmm here's a situation I arbitrarily picked out where this message doesn't apply, therefore the message is useless to all situations. And anyone who says otherwise is supporting the bad guys of my arbitrary situation" - literally all of you